Recruitment policy

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  1. Bri

    Brian Mahoneys Waist Well-Known Member

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    Some people still not reading the Barnsley recruitment policy and Stendels massive involvement in this.
    When we win Stendels god when we lose its P.Conways fault.
    Stendel said he would like some experience he didn't beg or plead he just said we could do with some experience.P.Conway said players are evaluated and if such a player is available and our finances allow they could be signed.
    These players aren't just thrown at Stendel and told to sort them out he has the final say who to sign based on months of research and them fitting in D.S playing style.
    Conways comments about it being the best transfer window in our history is a little premature.It's certainly the most our club have ever spent in a transfer window maybe that's what he meant.
     
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    Got to take some responsibility for the style of play, messing about across the back line and gifting goals. Understanding across the defence will come in time but in the short term we need to play which ever way gets us points on the board even if it's pants then we can fine tune things
     
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    The problem is we almost have to play from the back because we have no one to play it up to. There’s no point going long to any of our strikers when Roberts, Pederson & Dean are going to easily beat our lads in the air but then all any clever side do is push up against Mowatt & McGeehan eliminating the short pass into midfield so then we get caught out & give the ball away from a short pass or we go long & lose it that way.

    We’re better off trying to work on the short passing & build from the back as regardless of who plays up front there’s no one we can go long to.

    Of course in the short term that means we’re more vulnerable to ******* up & costing ourselves a goal but there’s not much of an alternative at least until January.

    Ideally we’d be able to mix it up so that we aren’t predictable but I don’t think we have that option
     
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    Just wondering how you know it's the most we've ever spent? And anyway, shouldn't it be more to do with the difference between income and expenditure?
     
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    We have tried long diagonals to pick out wingers, but its not an easy ball to play and if the fullback is decent in the air, we're going to come undone with that too.

    We're just very easy to play against at present. There's almost merit in just hoofing it back to the opponent, setting the press, and letting the opponent have it!
     
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    Django Well-Known Member

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    I was just thinking about the ball out to the winger. I remember when we used to do it with Watkins who was generally talker & stronger than most full backs he came up against. Could perhaps try something similar with Wilks
     
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    Just looked at the list of free agents of championship experience........

    https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/spi...sklasse=&wettbewerb_id=GB2&seit=alle&yt0=Show

    Can't tell me that list doesn't have plenty of names that given a one year contract to would do a job for us and pass on their experience to our squad that's got little between the lot of them. Just because of our recruitment policy don't buy in to no older player being able to do a job for us. Wages can't be an excuse either as plenty would rather be playing so they aren't forgotten about. For example if someone was on 10k a week and is now on nothing, they aren't going to expect anything like that now because they won't want to keep rotting without a club.
     
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    The powers in charge better take a good look at that list cos we are going back to Spotland next season otherwise
     
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    I did wonder if that's why Thiam was brought into the side last night. Last season we often hit a long diagonal to him knowing he'd be able to control just about anything. They played him very well last night, every time it was hit to him, they nudged and nipped in before he had time to get it down.
     
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    I think you have to bear in mind that even if the club says Stendel has final say it doesn’t mean he does. To any new player coming in they have to believe the manager wants them so the line that Stendel has final say will be used.

    Obviously he’s more likely to be behind players who’ve come from Germany like Bahre & Radlinger but none of us know just how much involvement the manager has in recruitment.

    Like Conor Chaplin for example, he was someone Ganaye tried to get us last summer so he was someone the club was after before Stendel joined.
     
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    Its same with hecky when he was here the recruitment policy is the same.
    It's okay paul conway giving it the big one after a few people were concerned saying it has been the best window in our history, well no paul sorry I cant agree I know stendel didnt want to lose pinnock or lindsay but they wanted to go and only had a year left on their deals so we took the 2.5 for lindsay and 3million for pinnock and replaced with diaby, anderson and brought in halme aswell. We then sold last seasons top scorer for 3million to a potential relegation rival and replaced with a 21 year old Austrian striker who still isnt fit enough to start a game. I don't believe stendel wanted to lose moore either who still had a 2 year on his contract left. The window before he had potts sold and we brought in green from yeovil. I don't think stendel has been backed much by the board and has for what we have spent we have only spent what we have generated in player sales and we have still some over I'd imagine.
    We don't bring in loan players anymore last time in this league Harvey barnes and mcburnie were great loan signings for us.
    Some of the criticism of stendel last night was unreal on here, I can understand people wanting cavare in the starting 11, but people suggesting we should have played George miller?? Give over. The squads so thread bare its unreal for me mcgheehan could do with a rest but dougall is still out and we have no one, as could bahre but same situation.
     
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    that's a v interesting list. Joe Lesley would be a good one to add to our group.
     
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    Too many lg1 quality players for me. We cant be expecting too much with a side that are predominantley lg1 players. They may all become championship quality given time but theyre not at the minute in my opinion. Sibbick, Chaplin, Anderson, Mcgeehan, Schmidt, Williams, Thiam, Wilkes, Thomas, Bahre and Halme are all learning whilst in a division above their level. This is the problem with the spreadsheet ethos, very rare do we buy genuine, hit the ground running championship standard players, they need to be made into that but that takes time.
    We also were told we would spend the money we get from transfers, but thats not quite right yet either. Dont get me wrong, im behind them and the plan but sometimes you have to look at it from an honest perspective.
     
  14. Bri

    Brian Mahoneys Waist Well-Known Member

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    So the manager states his involvement but we're not to believe him.
     
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    Yet he's the sort of name those who defend the squad's depth will bring up to support their argument.
     
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    Not in all cases no. He can’t tell a new signing he didn’t want him or that he knew nothing about him joining. Whether he wants that player or not once it’s clear the clubs signing him he has to tell him he wants him so his position doesn’t become untenable.

    You can’t have a situation where a manager is openly saying he doesn’t want a new signing who’s then sulking & unhappy in the dressing room.
     
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    Your last part of the final sentence.... you mean Heckingbottom, right? ;-) Oh.... you meant a player, ah I see, begging your pardon! ;-)
     
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    Brian Mahoneys Waist Well-Known Member

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    But if you read the transfer policy Stendel is involved at the start middle and end of each signing.
    Stendel with the help of the recruitment team select which players he wants to sign.
     
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    Its not entirely the case though is it. According to the sticky outlining the loose process, Stendel provides a profile of what he wants for each position in his team and its over to the recruitment team to then provide the research to come up with a list which is ultimately whittled down.

    The club forced criteria of signing uber young players limits the pool for the search. So if Stendel asked for a 26 year old captain with x experience and x criteria, he's not going to get that player (i'm not saying he's asked for this, though he did repeatedly ask for experienced players, and ideally with championship experience). At the end, if he's given 3 player profiles with accompanying footage and data, he's obviously going to rank them in order of preference. But the one he ends up with, isn't necessarily his preferred choice as his preference was filtered out right at the very beginning.
     
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    It will be the same scenario. We will leave it too late. They’ll come good in league 1 and we will sell them off and start again. It will never change.
     
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