So the Sovereignty defending Brexiteers. want to prevent erm, Sovereignty..

"As it stands parliament will sit for four days fewer than was planned...
What exactly would the remain camp have planned to do on those days which they have failed to do for the last three years?"

Not my words but a little perspective perhaps amid all the incitement to civil unrest etc?

Anyway Jeremy has written to the Queen.
Let that one sink in.

 

There’s a minimum wage you pay them the same rate.

 

On a side note it's fvcking mental that in the 21st century an unelected monarch should even have a role in something like this.

 

Supposed to pay. I'm sure there are a small number of unscrupulous businesses who bully a lower wage rate through for short term casual labour and take advantage of people. But that isn't reserved solely for EU workers.

 

So in your world all the political and judicial brains in Britain are commenting over nothing ?
That what Boris has done with the instruction of a communist isn’t meaningful ?
I think you need a little dose of that perspective your prescribing imo.

 

As has Jo Swinson and Boris before them. What of it?

 

I agree. Options should be;
1. Remain
2. Leave immediately with deal (if BOJO gets one)
3. Leave immediately with no deal

Fair?

 

True we should have a referendum whether or not she has a say.

 

I'm strongly in favour of remain but I don't think that is fair as it splits the leave vote. I think it should be staggered with 2 questions:

1. Do you want to remain or leave?
2. If we are to leave should it be with the proposed deal or with no deal?

 

Happened to me too, I was on a camping trip, my mum picked me up and told me all sorts of random cak, and just pulling on to our street came out with ‘oh, and Danny Wilson has gone to Wednesday’ - as though my fifteen year old self wouldn’t have thought that slightly more important news than my nannas perm or the fact they had spice girls chocolate bars with a short best before on special offer in Kwik Save (along with ‘it doesn’t matter that it’s got the bloody spice girls on, it’s still nice chocolate, you can get them ate you ungrateful git’)...

The euphoria of the first trip to Wembley two years later won’t be mirrored in this scenario though I fear. There will be no obvious positive in that short time frame.

 

Thank you!

 

The Brexit party and right wing tory soundbite seems to be "the remain camp have had plenty of time to....xyz"

Which obviously isn't true in so many ways. So many attempts to have cross party open discussion have been blocked. The tories didn't even have a negotiating position for 2 years and when they finally agreed the withdrawal agreement with the EU, it tanked time and again. May tried all sorts of things to block the order paper being taken over and hindered amendments to have true discussion. Tried blocking legal advice publication, that the house could have a "meaningful vote."

And wilfully blocking debate and discussion on leaving the EU from the very beginning at every turn.​

And when she accepted she had failed, she stepped aside. There was then a tory leadership contest wasting weeks on end, Johnson gave a speech in the commons and then went to recess.

We also have a 5 week conference season.

I'm not sure how MP's of any persuasion could have done a great deal more than they have to try and have a proper discussion. And this latest act is purely aimed at forcing a no deal scenario, and then re-enacting the referendum leave aspect of the will of the people being denied.

This is beyond ridiculous.

An unelected PM blocking democracy wilfully. Dangerous and disgraceful.

 

And yet the vote was won almost entirely on immigration.

The racist, xenophobic, little englander element, the ‘tommeh’ generation if you like, are the faction of the vote which turned leave into a winner.

Not everyone who voted leave did so on immigration issues. Of course not. But a bloody big proportion round here did - and thought that being out of the eu meant all them mucky foreigners were off ‘om and no more were coming.

The sad thing is, they still do.

And in two years time, when it is North Africans, south Asians or whoever that is the ire of the masses, like the ‘work shy Eastern Europeans’ are now (the irony in that - some of the hardest work ethics I’ve seen have been from polish and Romanian lads I’ve worked with and had work for me), who will they blame then?

Probably the ‘snowflakes’ for ‘stopping us getting out earlier’ and ‘mekkin king Boris still let foreigners in’

 

Again tarring all leave voters as racists. Pathetic.

 

Did you miss his sentence that started "Not everyone who voted leave did so on immigration issues?"

 

That still splits the leave vote. Leave won the first time around and it will do so again. All this crap about hard and soft Brexit, the Irish backstop the Gina Miller challenges in court, the lies of the CBI and the Bank of England were, in my opinion an attempt to muddy the waters so much that once a second referendum was announced it would have effectively split the leave vote because people didn't know what was what. I believe all of that stuff has further compounded peoples' desire to leave with "no deal" No deal is also terminology introduced post vote to leave as it was made abundantly clear in the run up to the vote that voting to leave meant leaving the common market, and all other associated bodies, David Cameron himself said that (chatham house speech 2015). A leave vote in 2016 was a defacto "no deal" vote, the remainers who have systematically tried to thwart Brexit have applied the title of "no deal" to create the illusion that the scenario wasn't envisaged prior to the vote, it's been an attempted stitch up from the start.

 

But a big majority did apparently. Where is his evidence? Also based on his statement I must be a little englander racist as I dont agree with the amount of immigration to this country over the past decade.

 

That is the sort of **** up Boris could pull off.

 

But you said "all".

 

We will all be on the losing side with Boris at the helm.