Something Blair did get right

A lot of assumptions there pal and all are wrong .
I’m well aware of the atrocities that were committed by all sides and condemn them and I wasn’t challenged to condemn them at all .
As for I don’t care , what the fek do you know about my emotions ?
Nowt at all ,just assuming again !
I wasn’t demonising all Serbs as you say at all I was demonising the Serbian state which passed and sanctioned Nazi solutions to these conflicts and acted out the atrocities which was dealt with by the UN and brought the Serbian govt at the time to justice , are you denying this in your insistence that the Serbian state had done nothing wrong?

 

Running riot ? They were protecting their own. Try to read unbiased facts from all sides before you too demonise serbs.

 

Don't forget the intervention in Sierra Leone which also saved thousands upon thousands of lives. Nothing to gain for it, just that it was the right thing to do.

 

Err not your pal By the way !

A lot of assumptions ? And all wrong ? Am I wrong about Kosovo being Serbian land ? Am I wrong about Albanians crossing the border ?

 

For me he did get that right. After that he thought he could solve the world's problems with a very dodgy ally.

He also got the NI peace process over the line, even though it had been worked on for many years before.

After that, I'd say he was a war criminal & his deregulation of the banking system, following Tory policies was a disaster.

Not a Blair fan overall.

 

Your wrong that Serbian atrocities weren’t state sponsored like the Nazis.

 

It wasn’t me - but in my lifetime there have been Thatcher, Major, Blair, Brown, Cameron, May and now Johnson.

To paraphrase Brian Clough, Blair might not have been the best, but he was in the top one.

I understand your view on the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq. That is fair.

But you need to judge everything else as well. The eighties and nineties were grim until he got in (I hardly need to point out what conservative policy in that period did to areas like South Yorkshire). 1997 marked a change and positive outlook - and one of Blair’s first policies, the minimum wage, has made a huge difference.

If that had not been brought in, you can be sure that as well as zero hours contracts, we would have people being paid a couple of quid an hour still. In fact I reckon BoJo and his buddies would love to let big corporations pay less. On that issue alone Blair improved conditions for many. He also reformed the welfare state - he is roundly criticised for supporting the workshy - but he wasn’t attacking the old, infirm and unable like current and recent administration. Relative poverty plummeted. It’s growing almost exponentially now.

Under his premiership Irish peace talks progressed leading to the good Friday agreement. The human rights act was established. His administration removed the majority of hereditary peers from the House of Lords.

After him there was Brown, sold off the bullion reserves for a pittance - after having been chancellor and knowing its real value to the country. He then bailed out the banks to the tune of half a trillion - though he didn’t really have too much choice probably.

Then round to Cameron, then May, now Johnson. All in part responsible for the clusterfuck we find ourselves in now, Cameron happily letting people starve due to the austerity measures which were a political choice, not a necessity. May making a royal balls up of sorting an orderly exit of the eu, and Boris Johnson? I’ll be kind and say it’s early days. His achievements so far are losing a lot of votes in the house and losing his majority.

Given the horrible times under Thatcher and the hellish high interest rates which nearly wiped out young home owners at the end of her reign and the early part of Major, in my 36 years who would you say has been the best premier if not Blair?

 

And you know this - how?

 

Me neither tbh but the Serbs thought they could do in Kosovo what they’d done in Bosnia and needed stopping.

 

History

 

Agree with you about what the Tories did to our areas and the workers in general ,
What Gauls me the most is that this Brexit party which are right wing Tories in all but name are being hailed as the best thing since sliced bread by some .
A fekin party who will no doubt put someone up pretending they were for our best interest , a party who once have a candidate will vote with the Tories .

 

Not quite

 

Wrong again

 

Well why dont you go and write your own history and come back and tell us how everybody else is wrong and your right ?

 

Everybody - what a high opinion you have of yourself. You think everybody has the same opinion as you ?

I don’t need to write my own history I fully understand the history of the balkans unlike you

 

The dossier?

 

Tony Blair should be right up there with John Lennon and Yoko Ono for his activism.

 

I'm not being funny mate but just running round saying wrong to anyone who disagrees with you isn't a particularly effective way to debate a point.

Maybe try provide sources to what you're claiming?

 

Some good points and all opinions I suppose, I'm not sure some of the soldiers parents who lost their sons in a illegal war would agree he was in the top one. I'm also not sure why he was so keen on the pfi schemes which were bad news and like I have already touched upon have put hospital trusts near me in a mess.

 

When I was on the dole. The government brought in a scheme called BEST where you went to use a computer to update your C.V and apply for jobs for two weeks otherwise you were sanctioned.

The other alternative was weeding the terraces at Post Office Road Featherstone for two weeks unpaid otherwise your dole was stopped. Where was the minimum wage there?

I was brought up that if there was a job to do you should be paid accordingly? Was that slave labour? Luckily I got a job just before and didn't have to do it. However, I was seriously considering contesting it at the time.