All this referendum stupidity

let me get this right or am I missing something.
The country voted to leave the EU
It was close but the majority said leave.
So now the losers want another vote.
So if by a narrow majority we vote to remain, Does that move us forward. NO
It will still be a load more of stupid Brexit crap and will move us nowhere as the leavers will want a best of three.
Meanwhile Tusk and Barnier and all Europe will be sat laughing their ******** off.
The country is locked in a battle, Government v Supreme Court. On democracy
What it democratic about going against the people's decision to Leave
Should the Supreme Court be involved in whether to have another referendum

 

But it would be a bit easier to get a deal sorted if remain won another referendum.

 

Totally agree. However, the feeling has changed and leavers are in the minority and it might be better to just remain rather than let the country tear itself apart. It would leave a nasty taste in my mouth but I'd rather that than fight amongst ourselves.

 

Democracy won today.

 

Like most brexiteers, you have falsely stated the referendum was a binding vote, it was advisory only, if it had been a final referendum it would have had a lot more stipulations in. Johnson lied every day during the referendum, and hasn’t stopped yet.

 

I believe the usual response is 'you lost, get over it'. Joking aside, today's events are the very essence of democracy, so it's a little disingenuous playing the democracy card here.

I've yet to meet a remain voter calling for a second referendum who wouldn't, unequivocally, accept the result of that referendum if the leave option once again won out. I'd accept it without hesitation, as it would be a decision based on actual facts and known repercussions. If people still voted for us to leave, then fair play. The 'best of 3' line is something that leave-voters trot out as they know the outcome of a confirmatory referendum would very likely contradict the first.

 

The country voted to leave
Losers want another vote
Best of 3
People's decision

A decent effort in Leaver bingo. Some big hitters missing though, expected "unelected beaurocrats", "snowflakes" and "Remoaners" to make an appearance.

 

And as a 'Brexiter' you knew what you voted for. You knew what the NI border solution was, you knew that we could leave with 'no deal', you new there would be social unrest, you knew there would be the greatest polarisation of our nation since the civil war, you new that the Labour and Tory parties would tear themselves apart even though this was a free vote and not a party political issue, you knew we would have a major shortages of medicines, you knew that leaving the EU would be dead easy and despite all that wonderful foresight you cling to your crass ideology out of dogmatic pride that says you were right all along, when as it turns out you were wrong.

 

The word DEMOCRACY it would appear has no meaning or definition, it is used by politicians and political pundits with utter abandon, but, in reality it's an illusion a mere catch word with no significance, meaningful power or influence.
I have witnessed many national elections in my fifty eight years of life some of which I felt uplifted because my vote helped the winning party, some of which I felt deflated because my vote was on the losing side, BUT! I have always accepted the result and got on with life still believing that my vote at least counted for something, my right to vote a basic human right, that would appear to be an illusory nonsense, because if the real powerful people that run this world want something, then they will get it by any means possible, what we are witnessing now in Great Britain is the death of the phantom word DEMOCRACY.

 

We're a Parliamentary democracy.

 

A change in demographics alone is predicted to swing the vote in Remain's favour. It's sensible to make sure leaving is still the will of the people as 3 years have now passed. The consequences for the country are too damaging for us not to. Leavers can stamp their feet and be as childish about it as they want to. It's not a game.

 

And parliament agreed to offer the people a choice by Democratic means, a question of such ease of understanding which was answered and thus ignored.
Democracy/parliamentary democracy is an opaque, ethereal and malleable thing.

 

No my friend what you are witnessing is our British democratic system at its best. Referenda are not binding. The 2016 one was not party political, MPs had a free vote. MPs are representatives not delegates of their constituents. To implement a result of a referendum requires a change to the law. As enshrined in our Bill of Rights of 1689 and there is a duty upon Parliament to approve, as stated "Laws should not be dispensed with, or suspended, without the consent of parliament". Contrary to what Brexiters would have you believe we have a 'Sovereign Parliament' and an independent judiciary free from political influence. We live in a parliamentary democracy and I am so grateful that we do.

 

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www....eferendum-was-only-advisory-a7401151.html?amp

 

Tell that to Miller, Corbyn, Bercow and Jimmy Krankie.

 

The irony is that sovereignty is having to be fought for against people who said sovereignty was being eroded and usurped.

A deal could be agreed, but successive governments have tried everything to stunt debate, openness, scrutiny and the rule of law.

It’s not the EU or courts or opposition or general MPs whipping up hate and distortion of truth.

Give MPs the time and space to genuinely debate and solve the most complex conundrum ever voluntarily asked of them.

But at present whipping of hatred, the push to absolute division and the Puritanism of victory will hurt us all in ways we can’t yet see.

Today is s truly great day... but many people and media and activists will blur that sovereign victory for personal short termism.

 

There will be a lot that don't vote in future over this shambles. Where does that leave democracy?

 

The same place it is now. Everyone can choose to vote or not.

At this stage, parliament hasn’t been able to put a solution forward. Partly because of government and conservative MPs. Perhaps this case and Johnson’s disgraceful tenure may be a line in the sand.

If we leave with no deal or we remain, half the population will feel it has a legitimate basis of grievance (at least).

 

Now they've had their victory for democracy they've nothing more to hide behind. Onto derailing Brexit.