We won't be interviewing anyone...

Discussion in 'Bulletin Board' started by Goldthorpe-Red, Oct 16, 2019.

  1. Che

    Chef Tyke Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 17, 2005
    Messages:
    18,437
    Likes Received:
    10,678
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    West Stand Bogs
    Home Page:
    Style:
    Barnsley
    As Jay rightly pointed out , the league position is largely irrelevant to their overall strategy

    In many ways I suspect their preference would be league one as it may be easier to achieve an increase in value when strikers are scoring, midfielders are assisting, defenders keeping clean sheets and so on - outlay is lower in terms of wage which makes it lower risk from their perspective

    for example Malik Wilks will be on what day 7k a week with 2m transfer fee.

    need to be selling for £5/£6m to see similar return % wise as to what we saw with Moore, Lindsay, Pinnock

    his value would be higher at the end of a league one season having scored 25 than at the end of a championship one having scored 6 or 7
     
  2. lk3

    lk311 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 14, 2016
    Messages:
    8,686
    Likes Received:
    7,126
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    Agree, just pointing out to all the people saying “no hoper” “penny pinching” etc.
    As others have said, unfair to judge the guy yet.
     
  3. lk3

    lk311 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 14, 2016
    Messages:
    8,686
    Likes Received:
    7,126
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    Could be, will hazard a guess that Stern is still here because of that as well.
    Fully expect within 6 months he will have left by mutual agreement.
     
  4. fit

    fitzytyke Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 5, 2006
    Messages:
    6,091
    Likes Received:
    3,923
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    He got 39 points though, 9 wins 12 draws.

    At this rate, well do well to get into the high 20s.
     
    Redhelen likes this.
  5. DEETEE

    DEETEE Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 8, 2011
    Messages:
    10,230
    Likes Received:
    2,188
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    No ones going to bid for a winger who has more cards than assists/goals.

    He is at this juncture... dead stock unless his game improves..
     
    DannyWilsonLovechild likes this.
  6. DusThaNoIII

    DusThaNoIII Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 28, 2013
    Messages:
    4,968
    Likes Received:
    3,002
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Leeds
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    Grasping at straws with this one I’m afraid.
    They simply don’t care, saw they could get someone with a bit of management experience for no money (plus a reduction in the wage bill from Stendel) and have gone with it.
    They’ll be praying for a rogue win in the next few games so they can appoint him and say it was a grand plan then let us get relegated.
     
  7. Redstone

    Redstone Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 10, 2005
    Messages:
    15,505
    Likes Received:
    10,851
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Style:
    Barnsley Dark
    Exactly it's hard to look good in such a poor team. In league one players would look better prospects.
     
  8. Gally

    Gally Administrator Staff Member Admin

    Joined:
    Nov 5, 2009
    Messages:
    16,532
    Likes Received:
    11,295
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    York
    Home Page:
    Style:
    Barnsley
    Bit unfair
     
  9. Ged

    Geddiswasguud Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 29, 2014
    Messages:
    4,245
    Likes Received:
    3,864
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    Plus he would have sold watson, eaden marcell and liddell in the january transfer window!!
     
    Redhelen and fitzytyke like this.
  10. orsenkaht

    orsenkaht Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 7, 2009
    Messages:
    11,276
    Likes Received:
    10,673
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    With all due respect to him Adam Murray's previous managerial stints ended in failure in lower divisions than the one we are about to be relegated to.
     
  11. Jak

    Jake The Red Banned Idiot

    Joined:
    Jan 31, 2019
    Messages:
    1,205
    Likes Received:
    1,326
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    There are 35 games left and personally I think more of our players than that.
     
    55&counting likes this.
  12. pompey_red

    pompey_red Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 27, 2005
    Messages:
    13,226
    Likes Received:
    9,037
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Fareham
    Home Page:
    Style:
    Barnsley Dark
    some would argue 99% of manager leave their jobs due to failure. its amazing and somewhat silly that in an industry where you have failed numerous times someone else will employ you to carry out the same task
     
  13. lk3

    lk311 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 14, 2016
    Messages:
    8,686
    Likes Received:
    7,126
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    Won the Conference as an assistant, took them out of relegation places of League 2 as Caretaker/Manager, finished 12th in first full season (highest league finish for 14 years) at Mansfield.
    Doesn't exactly sound like failure. Even when he left the CEO is on record saying the Owner was wrong to sack him.
    Granted he didnt do a lot at Boston.
     
  14. ark

    ark104 (v2) Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 25, 2011
    Messages:
    6,202
    Likes Received:
    1,547
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    York
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    This is the bit I think is unfair. We have absolutely no proof that any money has been taken out of the club. I don't doubt that the long term plan is for them to make money, but the only sensible way to do that is to sell us for more than they bought us which, without owning the ground, will only be achieved by the club being successful.

    My view is they've ballsed up the strategy this year but without proof I think there needs to be caution on the notion of them just being here to pocket transfer fees.
     
  15. Redstone

    Redstone Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 10, 2005
    Messages:
    15,505
    Likes Received:
    10,851
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Style:
    Barnsley Dark
    At our level you get two types of Managers. Ones who have failed before or are unproven.
     
    John Peachy likes this.
  16. ubi

    ubique_tyke Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 26, 2011
    Messages:
    3,578
    Likes Received:
    3,287
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Barnsley
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    That is true, but you would hope that theyve failed/not succeeded in the same league or league below
     
  17. Dan

    DannyWilsonLovechild Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 8, 2011
    Messages:
    14,163
    Likes Received:
    17,210
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Style:
    Barnsley
    I do get the feeling the job is essentially his, unless he makes a right Horlicks of it and they may well review as they go along. They seemed to change tack when appointing Daniel having seemed to suggest it would be a young English manager at first. So I don't think its completely set in stone...

    However... as the owners have placed such importance on data and building on the style of play and DNA that Patrick outlined years ago, the only reason for Murray to be given a go is if his stats are closely comparable to Daniel. Somehow, I'm not thinking Gugenpress was particularly prevalent at Mansfield and Boston. I could be wrong, but I reckon it may have been mentioned in his eager interview.

    For the club to appoint a coach who doesn't have the data to back his credentials is frankly stupid and undermines their thinking all the more.

    For what its worth, I reckon after huge defeats to promotion contenders, insipid losses to relegation candidates and concluding in a humiliation on sky v Bristol City, the owners will revert back to data and try and appoint a foreign coach.
     
  18. Wilmersdorfer Winky

    Wilmersdorfer Winky Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 30, 2006
    Messages:
    2,044
    Likes Received:
    1,956
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Previously Rotherham_Tyke
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    No, but it is why the club haven’t said anything else publicly about it I’m told. They’re sharks.
     
    lk311 likes this.
  19. Sopwith Camel

    Sopwith Camel Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 18, 2009
    Messages:
    11,507
    Likes Received:
    5,309
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Present
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    Deffo employee..
    By their fruit you shall know them..
     
    ubique_tyke likes this.
  20. orsenkaht

    orsenkaht Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 7, 2009
    Messages:
    11,276
    Likes Received:
    10,673
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    Going to be interesting on here when Mowatt, McGeehan and Cawley depart in January.
     

Share This Page