Labour leadership contenders.

Clive Lewis or Starmer would be great

 

Starmer’s politics are fine, the essential problem with him is that he has the charisma of a pre-war paving slab

 

I thought that about Trump, but behaving like a knob seems to make him more popular.

 

The Labour Party is hopelessly split - the left wing who want to go back to good old Socialist Worker Marxism - and the moderates who would prefer the politics of Tony Blair - Starmer is one. Not fit for purpose and not appealing to the electorate. In danger of becoming a minority party

 

of the candidates so far il be voting starmer

 

I think your correct regards Boris also theirs more factions to the party now the northern MPs are in force which will split the party even more than it is now .
Boris won’t be able to pull them together so it depends how hard these northern MPs fight to keep their seats.
As for labour all the candidates are offering different directions which is good for diversity and democracy imo .
As for bringing the country together I’m afraid they’ll have to court the Sun and Mail owners for that to happen .

 

I think this is a smaller ask than many suggest (including too many of those candidates).
everyone’s still obsessed with Brexit - that ship has sailed.

no one really believes there’s a rosy future in 3 or 4 years, the smart approach is to look at how we deal with that, and the right approach could galvanise the press behind a party with ideas that’s not full of Johnson’s corruption and bullying.

that requires a smarter politician - and so far Long Bailey is focussed on how the world treats Labour badly, Phillips keeps getting dragged into discussions about Brexit, and Starmer very calmly turned round any discussion of the past to talk about a government for the late 2020’s into the 30’s.

I wouldn’t have described myself as a fan, but it’s like watching men v boys.

 

I would quite like Jess Phillips to get it. As a challenge to an above post, I don’t find her in any way racist, but more challenging to the muslim community to adapt.

Bear in mind her constituency within Birmingham has a high muslim population. And they vote her in comfortably. I like her strength in speaking freely and feel she’d be a breath of fresh air and would challenge the status quo.

However, despite my preference (and I will vote for her as a member), I don’t think she’ll win.

If Long-Bailey gets it we might as well not have an election in 2024. She’s a massive Corbynite who would waste, sorry spend, her time telling the electorate they were wrong not to back the policies they rejected as opposed to offering something different.

Keir Starmer is more centrist but isn’t likely to have the personality or charisma to beat Boris in an election campaign.

So I want neither, but suspect it will be one of those two. Lewis, Nandy, Thornberry - can’t see them in the chair to be honest.

 

Just the one shot needed.

 

Pretty sure he had been on the lash before a few of his interviews.....

 

But his former constituents are utter cvnts.

- didn't particular want to be in the EU - tick
- speaks his mind - tick
- done a lot for his area - tick

Yea, we'll just vote him out. fukcing hell

 

I would have loved it, absolutely loved it ( as Keegan said about manure whilst managing the toon) if Abbott would have thrown her hat in the ring, I would have paid to become a labour party member just to vote for her

 

Long-Bailey loved by Momentum and the Corbynista, they’ve just been battered by Boris Johnson ffs why on earth would they go down the Marxist road again. Starmers bright enough but not someone the electorate would warm to in my view. Needs some new blood, fresh ideas Lisa Nandy ?

 

Starmer for me with Nandy as deputy.

The leader does not make policy. The most important thing is they are robust at the despatch box & strong on interviews. Both these two fit that bill, both Starmer & Jess Phillips gave excellent interviews with Andrew Marr to be fair, but I don't think Jess has enough support in the party & it would be hard to unite behind her.

Idiologically I'm with Long-Bailey on many things, but she is a car crash at interviews. Her voice is very monotone, which is an unfair judgement on a person in general, but party leaders are in a popularity poll at election time & I don't see here winning over the type of people the party needs to win over, "the man, or woman in the street", i.e. someone who doesn't read manifestos, just votes on personality.

Just my view, I'll support whoever wins. Clive Lewis seems decent too, but I can't see him getting it.

 

Just out of curiosity. Are you a party member?

Do you know how many members the Labour Party have? What proportion of the 500000+ members are Momentum members? Momentum have around 40000 members that's less than 8% of the party membership. They don't have as much influence as the Sun, Daily Mail and Telegraph tell you.

 

I was at the University of Leeds at the same time as Keir Starmer. We shared the same Graduation Ceremony too. But I don't think he will be getting my vote. Saying that Jess Phillips definitely won't get my vote she is far too cosy with Rees-Mogg. Angela Rayner will get my vote for Deputy Leader. Who I vote for as Leader will depend on who is standing and how the elimination process goes.

 

I'd rather listen to someone scrape their nails down a blackboard than listen to monotone Starmer . Zero presence.. So providing it's not him for me lol..

 

Kinda took half a point and ran with it.
It's not really that relevant how many 'members' momentum has - the influence is clearly much wider than that (otherwise we wouldn't have been stuck with JC for so long). I've several nieces and nephews who are labour members and JC fans (not momentum members) and as such will be throwing their weight behind whoever is the 'momentum' candidate.