Minority Report 2019-20 v Preston North End

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  1. Sup

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    In relation to football unless your qualifications tell you how much Mads Andersen cost, what his wages are, how much all the available alternatives cost etc then your knowledge of accounting has pretty much no bearing on the conversation about us signing bad football player.

    Ps FFP allows £13m losses per year in the championship. We've had our pants pulled down if signing better than Mads and bambo would push us over that. And that's obvious to everyone with or without any qualifications
     
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    It explains why we have chosen to take a punt on younger unproven players.

    We have been trying to get to the same place that other championship clubs are, on the cheap. Other clubs are chucking money at it. And we don't want to do that.

    It could have worked, our plan. Until last night (when my own bubble of optimism was well and truly pricked) I was beginning to think we had a good thing going (song somewhere there,Peachey).

    Unless our players (all of them, with the notable exception of Williams J) were still subdued and knackered after Bristol, then it's failed. Definitive no way back performance.

    Furthermore - which prospective recruit would think we had any chance of stopping up after that game last night? Errr... none. So I suspect our last minute recruitment list has shrunk to leave only desperados on it.

    Never mind. I'll still be there next season.
     
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    It doesn't explain the scattergun approach. Sign 50 and hope one are two are anywhere bear this level
     
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    So, when I fork out for my season ticket I should accept that, at best, I can look forward to enjoying every second season. I should cheerfully endure nights like last night so that I can enjoy myself in League One next season. To be fair, if this season ends as expected, we will have been relegated from the Championship twice, and promoted from League One once, since they took over. So in those terms things are going well. Sound long-term thinking I guess.
     
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    It's not scattergun.

    It's apparently scientifically honed.

    It's just not working too well at the moment.

    I suspect that it doesn't quite work so well when you end up signing the 10th bloke on your wish list.
     
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    Yes. That’s why they need to use didactic tubthumping slogans like “My Town, My Team, My Blood”. If you don’t turn up vs Port Vale, you’re not a proper fan.
     
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    I really did buy into "the plan" and in principle it is a very good idea but i do believe it needs tweaking at this level.
    In order for this plan to work, does require a long term strategy and thats what fears me most. I simply do not trust our suits and i point towards their "long term" promise at Nice....which was anything but.
    When you actually read of their progress they claim to have made....they did not.
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    I didn't cheerfully endure last night. I took it on the chin. It was very disappointing, but I did not let my disappointment get out of control, and I think many have. I enjoyed last season. It was good to have a successful team, but I never let my sense of pride in that team's achievements get in the way of my objective analysis. I knew that team would have struggled to survive in the Championship. I knew that it needed strengthening, but I did not know how that could happen from the financial point of view. The team was not strengthened in the short term, but the long term might be different. We all must hope so.

    I have gone beyond thinking when I renew my season ticket. It is all done on automatic pilot. When I do so, I obviously hope for a successful team, but I know that there are no guarantees. That is the game that we watch, especially when you have pinned all your hopes on the fortunes of a small club in a town that has seen better days. I should have opted for a team with more guarantees of success, if that is what I wanted. But I didn't. I opted for my local team, and in spite of everything, I have never regretted it.
     
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    Can’t honestly say I’ve never regretted it, but I’m still here 54 years on. It wasn’t just the fact the team needed strengthening, it also didn’t need weakening. For what it’s worth, I absolutely do not accept your assertion that the key players we sold had to be let go because they wanted to leave. Off the top of your head, could you name any player currently at Oakwell who wouldn’t want to leave if they were offered more money elsewhere? Truth is, the club cashed in. Whether they did it without properly thinking through the consequences only they know.
     
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    Can we all say that what we post on here is an "objective analysis", please?
     
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    Be interesting to know his thought process at the time when all he had to do was put the ball out for a throw in .
     
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    Bang on. What a load of crap it is, isn't it? I can't believe we have so many apologists for this regime on here when there are so many questions about whose interests they really have at heart. Can people not see what is in front of them?
     
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    I’ve been on the Jaipur so go easy on me. Been to both Preston games this year and they’ve been painful but, Christ I’ve seen us at Hartlepool on Boxing Day playing at that level. I do like watching this team trying to play football, we’ve been in worse places.
     
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    It looks to me like someone has decided that a wind-up is a much better game than footie.
     
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    Until you have a properly policed financial regime in place for football, those with money will prevail.

    That's what people can't see in front of them.

    All you seem to want is for somebody else to spend their money for your benefit.

    Until you come out with a plan that points another way to footballing success, you're stuck with League 1.
     
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    I'll see your Hartlepool on Boxing Day and raise you Crewe away, Easter Monday 1978! Never let it be said...……….
     
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    If only, Red Rain. If only!
     
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    I like your optimism. I don't share it myself I'm afraid.
     
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    Same feeble argument. FFS it is Mr Conway who needs the plan. It is he who promised us Championship stability as a short-term aim. As a starter, why don't we play by the same rules as the rest of the Division?
     
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    How about not selling our better players?
     
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