Terrorists

I don't normally get involved with these kind of debates but looking back to the 2 terrorists who murdered Lee Rigby.They were filmed soon after his murder with the blood stained knife and bloodied clothes stating why and in who's name they had done it.
In a case like that these people can never be deradicalized and execution is the only way .

 

Two weeks at Butlins would definitely sort em out, especially the Skeggy one...

 

I think the 2 in Rigby's case are banged up without chance of ever being released. I think we have 70(ish?) who are jailed for life. As for a lot of them though, they get automatic release after serving half their term without even seeing a parole board... how does that make sense??

 

I don't understand what executing people would actually achieve. It's barbaric and regardless of what someone has done I don't think the state should be taking the lives of its citizens.

 

It prevents them ever doing it again.They advertised there guilt in the most barbaric way.Why should the state pay for existance for the next 40/50 years.

 

Fly tipping

 

Leaving dog foul or tying it to a tree.

 

Because life imprisonment is generally cheaper than the death penalty.

 

This.

And it tends to be people from better backgrounds that do it.

******* lazy ********.

 

Tin hat on here.
Automatic release seems a strange concept to me. Are we to assume that there is a prescribed period of jail that results in a person become de-radicalised? Wonder what the process is by which this occurs? Surely each case should be judged on its merits rather than a block release clause.
I have a friend who is the sister of a convicted terrorist who was apprehended in the planning phase. He served a period in prison during which he was extremely penitent. He was threatened on a daily basis by the jehadist group who were inside. When he came out he was given a job by someone who believed in him. He was married last Saturday and is looking forward to a future in which he can build a family.
The people who need to be isolated from the rest of humanity are the ones who propound a belief that in order to be a good Muslim you have to kill people and have a right to do so. This is not a simple problem and there is too much belief in simple solutions to complex issues. There in lie the seeds of right wing populism.

 

This is where I am, too. I don't want to live in a country which kills people to teach me that killing people is wrong.

 

You would have a rabid dog put down because it is too dangerous to keep alive.

 

I'd add that most of these would like to be martyrs. Locking the most serious offenders up and throwing away the key seems the best option for me. Lesser offences it is all about stopping further radicalisation & re-education & monitoring via the parole system properly on release. The parole system seems to be failing badly due to lack of resources, just like the prison system. The end to automatic early release for terror offences seems reasonable, but is only part of the issue.

 

I'm surprised that people on here want to see the UK practicing sharia law.

 

Crap analogy. How exactly is someone imprisoned for life dangerous?

 

If they'd like to be martyrs, it seems a win/win for us and them all round.

It'd be a bit churlish not to go along with what they want.

 

not so crap if you think about it properly, because they create new radicals while they are in prison perpetuating the problem.

 

Do they? If that is the case then I don't see why the prison arrangements can't be altered to prevent them from having the ability to radicalise other prisoners rather than just executing them.

 

Better skeggy than the maldives.Or perhaps we could have another referendum.

 

Like I've just said on another thread everything is shades of grey.
I could never agree with capital punishment but other than that the priority must always be the protection of the innocent.
If someone has shown a propensity to murder innocent people or has actually done it then the bar for them being released back into society has to be so high and rigorous that i would find it hard to believe anyone would clear it.