just watching Match of the Day and I am struggling to work out how they train the VAR refs Absolutely blatant stamp deemed accidental. 2 almost identical Handballs in the same match one given as a pen one not and someone needs to explain to the refs guide dog the difference between a shoulder and an arm bouremouth well robbed by incorrect decisions. Its unbelievable how badly the have screwed it up
Just watching match of the day now...I’m truly speechless, not sure who was on VAR duty yesterday but forget specsavers it’s a guide dog he needs. Ridiculous decisions
The one in Leicester match got me how city could be awarded a pen but not Leicester for virtually the same thing why can’t the referee go to the monitor
Could have saved themselves money and just stuck to the status quo! Refs have always been great at penalising the less fashionable teams!
I don't watch MOTD. How are the pundits reacting to VAR? Are they as critical as the fans or does it just give them more talking points?
Well obviously they are delighted for the extra talking points but pretty scathing about the decisions
Good to finally hear a pundit say he would get rid of it.Also watched a interview with Danny Murphy who said not one player he had spoken to wanted it.People always moaned about bad calls getting teams relegated.Get ready for end of this season.
The way the FA have implemented it is nothing short of disgraceful. I don't know for certain but I've read that we have implemented it differently to other countries.
In Spain they check the car and if the var guy says it will take a few views to see because it isn't immediately clear they go with the refs original decision. In pretty much all other countries the ref goes to the monitor to check himself, in England he just points his arm where someone in London tells him to without knowing why
That's what I thought and I also thought it was about clear and obvious errors and not a toe nail being offside. If it takes the VAR team more than one look then its not clear and obvious and the refs decision should stand. It might be great theatre for armchair fans but the delays are not fun for the proper fans in the stand.
I think the offside rule is still used the same in all countries because somebody high up in FIFA (or UEFA) said that they never want to see an incorrect offside decision again. I've no problem with it being a toenail off, we'd complain if a goal was wrongly disallowed because the ball was only a millimetre over the line. The problem is the time it takes and sensors have simply got to be used to change that
I was against var before it came in and how it has been implemented has proved to be worse than I anticipated. It should only be used when technology can absolutely determine right or wrong like whether the ball went over the line. Most decisions are subjective and should be left to the referee otherwise you not only don't make any difference, it's just another human making wrong decisions, but it also introduces more inconsistency. The var ref and the match day official may interpret differently and this has proved to be the case week in week out. It needs stripping back and wait for technology to catch up such that decisions like offside can be reliably made. It has not enhanced the game and is in danger of spoiling it for the fans for the purpose of adding drama.
The proper fans in the stand ceased to matter when the great god money and its evil accomplice Sky stole the soul of the game.
A great idea in principle, symbolic and embarrisingly implemented. School report reads....must do better!
Goal line technology is brilliant. Refs watch buzzes if ball is over the line We should wait until similar technology exists for offside.
The technology for offside is there, they just don't want to use it. The solution for the var ref and normal ref mix up is also clear but they again won't use it. The ref has a monitor at the side of the pitch. He should be the one using it not someone else in a different city but even that doesn't go far enough for me. As soon as the var guy says in the refs ear "think you've got that wrong, come and check" he's got doubt in his mind, another official has told him they think he's wrong. It should be player led with the captains allowed a set amount of challenges which the referee then controls. He contacts VAR and asks for camera angles to help HIM decide with no opinion given from the var control who is simply there to find camera angles. If after viewing 3 camera angles he doesn't realise his error the original decision stands.
Should be like Rugby, so that the ref says "I think that was a goal, is there any reason why not?" rather than the VAR official saying "You've made a mistake...".
Also in Rugby it’s clear the Replays are to help the ref see things he might have missed not to highlight his errors. In Football it’s almost as if it’s to spot referee mistakes the emphasis is wrong.