Is Football ready to have a gay player?

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  1. Farnham_Red

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    Unlikely as he isnt gay - just the target of some unwarranted homophobic abuse
     
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    some patronising/superior responses on this thread -

    If we paraphrase them what's being said by some posters is -
    if you're gay you should 'come out' and when you do I'll be there to support you.

    Maybe gay players don't want to 'come out' and maybe the last thing they want is someone assuming they want support.

    No one talks about straight players disclosing their sexuality so why are some people obsessed with gay people doing that?
     
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    Must admit sexuality is down to the individual and nobody elses business. So agree with the latter part of your post. I don't think anyone is being patronising though.
     
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    I did not know that. Why such abuse though ?
     
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    But a large number of straight players already disclose their sexuality by not hiding it and often being open about who their partner is. Whereas the fact that we have no openly gay footballers suggests there is an issue in football and individuals don't feel comfortable coming out. Therefore it would be seen as a milestone when a gay footballer is able to disclose that information comfortably and would hopefully lead to greater acceptance.
     
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    Le Saux was teased about being gay, but as Farnham Red rightly says in fact he's not. He happens to have a
    couple of kids with his wife Mariana and because of the abuse he has recieved ,he seemed to have adopted
    a protective stance on behalf of the LGBT community.

    At the end of the day, who's business is anyone's sexuality but their own anyway.? Having said that, with regards
    to a gay footballer , you can visualise the taunts and abuse they would get and that is the probable reason why they
    are reluctant to come out.

    A lad I used to do business with at Salford University was always adamant that a one time high profile Manchester United and England midfielder who prior coming to England played in Germany was gay, even though at one time he was briefly seen out
    and about in Manchester with a female. There are bound to be quite a number of gay players in the EFL and it's a shame that they can't live the life that they want to.


    https://thesefootballtimes.co/2019/...ning-for-gay-players-to-come-out-in-football/
     
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    I've found myself naturally sex neutral as I've got older, not my choice but my burgeoning belly might be to blame. :D
    They should come out en-mass and ******** to the homophobes .
     
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    Well , you thought wrong lad. There's nowt worse than an uneducated **** stirrer .
     
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    That was not my agenda at all. I just seemed to recollect something about him in the past. The point I was trying to make was that footballers and indeed other sports persons coming out is not a new thing. But please do not let that stop you jumping down my throat, it seems you get off on it , as you do it often to others too.
     
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    I don't think anyone should be made to do anything they don't want to. I guess being a high profile footballer, if you were gay it must be extremely difficult to live a normal life without it getting into the media and people spreading rumours. I think it is horrible that we still live in a world where people are so homophobic. I think we have come a long way since the days of Justin Fashanu but not far enough.

    Nobody should have to announce their sexuality, however equally nobody should have to live a lie a la Philip Schofield or have to hide their sexuality. It screws people up. Whoever makes the first move will be incredibly brave and hopefully it will put an end to people making a big deal out of it.
     
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    In a lot of ways yes. The vast majority of fans would have no problem.

    Then there's the vocal minority who as we all know don't know how to behave in public. They aren't necessarily all homophobic but some are so thick that they would chant things and then go home for a night of fun with their own boyfriend and not even realise the irony.

    It would be quite interesting to see how the majority reacted to it though. Would they sit in silence it would they tell them to shut up?
     
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    my degree in Aeronautical engineering, 3 A levels, City & Guilds General engineering, 8 O levels, seem to contradict your opinion.
     
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    Ok then, an educated **** stirrer ;)
     
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    Racists still feel comfortable enough making chants in 2020, I can't see how they wouldn't feel any less comfortable doing the same to LGBT players. I reckon people would react the same.
     
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    Made me laugh that did :D
     
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    thats better , thankyou ST. But I was not stirring. Just thought itwas a fact he had come out. OK I was wrong. But was seriously not stirring.

    :D
     
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    Not forgetting your love of Man Utd :p
     
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    Which posts are you referring to as I cant see any that say gays should come out - but at the moment any gay players have no choice but to hide it unlike hetrosexual players who can be seen with their WAGS. I guess there are a fair few who wish they could be treated normally but cant because they know it will be a big thing - unlike in most other careers where no one cares.
     
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    In going to be honest I've no idea what you even posted i only saw your last reply and couldn't resist.
     
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    absolutely BM.... o_O
     
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