Keir Starmer

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  1. George Kerr

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    Starmer is without doubt the best of the three. My personal choice would have been Emily Thornbury. The majority of the electorate are centre left. That includes 'borderline Tories , liberals and labour supporters who aren't party members. Corbyn and his acolytes failed to understand this and it seemed that they didn't accept that the 'working class' in 2019 (the majority of the electorate) were not the same as 1919. The living standards and health are better and level of poverty is less now so people's aspirations are different.
    If labour doesn't acknowledge this and regain the centre ground they will not get re-elected to power.
     
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    You mean Testiculating .
     
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    If your refering to corbyn then yes , it tells you all you need to know about the British political system . It's no surprise that the whole political establishment and big business via the media were against him , and that includes Mr starmer . Kind of funny all this anti semitism hysteria suddenly disappeared when Corbyn lost which again tells you how the system works . They will lie constantly and strike fear into their own citizens just to get what they want .
     
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    This summarises pretty well my feelings. Iraq war was a major f-up though. I think after Kosovo Blair got it into his head he could solve all the world's problems. Definite domestic improvements apart from the PFI schemes for hospitals.
     
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    That’s very true and also how our media has influence although people deny it
    It was so obvious with the comments on social media and elsewhere the hate towards Corbyn had come from the hate campaign
     
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    Indeed. Somebody I follow on twitter pointed out that Labour's anti-semitism suddenly got a lot less "institutional" as soon as somebody more palatable to the media establishment looked likely to take the reins.

    I'm holding back any judgement on Starmer for the time being. For me a lot will depend on the makeup of his shadow cabinet - I hope for something still radical but a bit more all-encompassing, but I fear a wholesale purge of the left.
     
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    And that's the problem I have with Keir starmer , when he had a chance to stand up against the blatant lies he instead chose to go right along with it . I haven't checked but I'm going to guess he's in the " friends of Israel " lobby . A weak leader if I ever saw one , easily corruptable to the highest bidder who will sell you down the river but talk nice while he's doing it .
     
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    We had appropriate staffing under the Blair administration and many more hospital beds. I simply cannot see labour having a sniff again in my lifetime unless at some point they go down a similar route. I don't mind Starmer though and I strongly believe he will have much more appeal to the undecided than Corbyn ever could. You can't change much or deny your opposition when you haven't enough seats to do so.
     
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    Sir Keir Starmer if you please.
     
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    grammer school, university, and a pier of the realm, truly a man of the people
     
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    Angela Raynor's acceptance speech , straight from the 1990s . It's just the same old " hope and values " platitudes . They ve got nothing to offer apart from lip service .
     
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    I confess I don't know much about the guy but wasn't he involved in trying to not prosecuting Jimmy Saville or something?
     
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    Is there a problem with being educated?
     
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    Italy two weeks ago were 512 ahead of where we are 14 days later....

     
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    i think its crazy that people ( usually marxist/momentun supporters) are saying he's the wrong choice jeezaloo the poor sods only had the job 3 hours, wait and see how he shapes up and who if anybody he ships out. nothing but nothing can be done until the country's back from the brink and there's some kind of normality
     
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    none at all, not even stow and eton
     
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    Well done, Sir Keir.
     
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    seriously just f**k off. We get you don’t like labour but you open with a statement you know no not much about him but then come out with that ridiculous statement.

    For your information Starmer was Director of Public Prosecutions and made a personal apology that savile wasn’t tried whilst alive.

    go read the daily mail.
     
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    I think the people who say they are not influenced are taking it literal as in the papers or News on TV.
    IMO everyone is influenced these days it just dependant on how much and where that influence comes from, most of that influence comes from places people don’t realise.
     

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