I can see both sides of the argument to be honest. This disease is pitting people against one another. It boils down to frustration on both sides of the fence.
Frustration. Completely understandable. We've all lost money. Advocating people be abandoned to die. Totally sick.
I think that's an interpretation to be honest. I've read the whole thread and no one has said directly leave the old to die.
Not "old Roger" from down the bowls club not deserving of making his 84th year rather than dying at 82? Not the lifeboat analogy? The vast majority are suffering through this in some form or another. Thankfully the vast majority are not willing to abandon the vulnerable at this point in time. I'm not having a go at you here SD, i can always have a good natured natured disagreement with you. There are a couple of posters on this thread though that have made comments way beyond the pale.
It's my nature Churton. I tend to gloss over the more extreme posts unless I've got my argumentative head on.
I tend to be the opposite SD. I'm very easy going mostly but the way I've seen the world going in the last decade is so depressing i tend to explode when i see some of the stuff that's posted on here.
Can see where you're coming from. If you look at some of the posts I like. I'm not necessarily liking the point. Sometimes it's the entertainment as a thread descends into an episode of Jerry Springer.
My son (aged 21) was looking to buy his first house when all this started. He's saved hard but I am stuck with him (and his girlfriend) now for a while longer . I didn't get my name on a mortgage until I was 40 years of age.
As Stevie Wonder sang, "there is good and bad in everyone" and I mirror the earlier post about respect.
As an oldie myself I know what the OP is getting at but how do you let the under 45s off the leash but keep the over 45s on some sort of lockdown,? Can you really open up bars, cafes, restaurants, cinemas etc for under 45s only? Youd need bouncers on doors checking ID. Also sometimes a job needs the experience that only age brings so would you ban that work colleague because they didn't fit the age criteria? However most importantly I wouldn't want to be the one responsible for someone else's death due to spreading the disease. I've two sons in their early 30s who don't agree with the OP purely because of this reason. Not all young uns are thoughtless.
F*** me, limited restrictions have been in place less than two months and we've people bleating on about not being able to go to the pub, foreign travel etc. Some f****** good you'd have been in the miner's strikes, let alone being alongside in a war situation.
Why do people think that others owe them anything? The chance of dying if you catch covid between 45-64 is 0.28%. The chance of dying if you catch covid between 25-44 is 0.018%. If you don't want to accept these risks then stay home, but calling people who do want to work and survive selfish is pretty selfish itself. People seem to bang on about society and social conscience, but that's just them saying you're obligated to act in their interests, never the other way around. If you are interested in helping society then you need to accept society needs to get back on its feet. Source for the figures: https://joshuablake.github.io/public-RTM-reports/20200510.html
Very true, easy to have a ‘social conscience’ when you are sat mortgage free, retired with savings and a nice pension.
They had the war and its aftermath. We ve had a couple of months of missing out on socialising. Hardly the same thing is it?