Notwithstanding that fact that the Govt HAVE got many things wrong...

Yeah this is the thing isn't it, there was that 2-3 week period just before lockdown where it did become obvious to everyone that we were behind the curve in not cancelling events, implementing measures etc

 

We were still welcoming flights etc from badly infected countries / Regions .
If this had just crept up on us then you could excuse the govt to some degree but with the warnings they had from without and within and to laughingly call the acquisition of ventilators operation last gasp is diabolical .
The Cavalier approach by this govts is verging in criminal imo .

 

Exactly.

If you go through various posts on here between the 10th-20th March, there's many posters questioning Cheltenham, Pubs, Schools, Crufts, Liverpool/Madrid, Stereophonics gigs, shaking hands with those infected and Herd Immunity.

It's only the Tory Lovers who are flapping around at the minute trying to defend this shower.

 

Sorry to be a pedant but the UK had its first Covid19 related death on 6th March.

https://www.bmj.com/content/368/bmj.m943

 

The stand out thing for me during this crisis has been the blatant lies, and idiotic behaviour displayed by this government.

Yes this virus pandemic is unprecedented in the UK in the modern age. Yes some of the science was to say the least contradictory in the early stages.

If the government had stood up, held up their hands and said "we could have been better..we acknowledge that..we'll take the flak and learn lessons...we now need to pull together to get through this etc etc" perhaps they might not have got such criticism.

However they tried to pull the wool over all our eyes. Johnson leading from the rear. Johnson blatantly shaking hands with infected people and proclaiming he would continue to do so. Johnson contracting coronavirus. Tory rags building him into some sort of hero for fighting the disease. Portraying him as some sort of modern day Churchill, the blitz spirit etc, after Johnson missed five COBRA meetings whilst he finalised his divorce and silencing of his offspring.
Announcing a testing target they could never hope to meet and blatantly lying about it, counting tests in the post and counting a nasal and throat swab from the same patient as two tests.
Wishy washy "advice" on lockdown
Johnson hiding somewhere whilst he sends his bunch of clueless rabbits into the headlights
Banning interviews with Piers Morgan because he asks questions they don't want to answer.
Doubling the amount of money charged to foreign NHS staff...to use the NHS, and only doing a U-turn after serious pressure from all sides including his own.

This prime minister is a total self centred buffoon, detached from reality, totally unfit to lead even a boy scout troop, and surrounded by incompetent acolytes.

The jingoistic union jacks have dropped to their ankles, and they are exposed for what they are. Nothings. Propped up by soundbites, rhetoric and the Tory press

Not fit for government

 

I ******* well and truly commend that statement to the house, which also should be rammed down every government (not Tory) apologists throat.

 

This.

 

This guy got it right early on:

 

That.

 

All I remember from early doors was scientists saying we needed to act fast with this virus. We'd seen the pictures from China , shook me up enough that if the government had locked us down early and more stringently I wouldn't have complained.

 

I can’t like this enough , says it all about this lying deceiving Nero fiddling set of incompetent verging on criminal set of ******* .
All they had to do was make it a parliamentary issue and involve the best people from across our governing elite . but no bumbling Boris and his shady crew wanted to be the heroes , wanted to be the knights in shining armour . Laughing the threat off by spewing land of hope and glory and bulldog spirit rhetoric .
Well the people have lots to be proud of in the way we have handled this pandemic in spite of an inept bunch of chancers in our govt.

 

Yeah but Corbyn........

 

You know if Johnson had done his job and actually attended some important meetings, instead of skiving off with taxpayer money, he might've had the FORESIGHT to do something. Instead he did what he does best - run away from responsibility, then when **** hits the fan, lie constantly, confuse and/or deflect blame, whether it's onto nurses/teachers/the entire f*cking population.

 

Very true Mr AthersleyRed.

But what with Cummings running the whole show he wasn't needed at any important meetings anyway.

 

Very interesting interview with a intelligent and articulate man. He was right that all the measures brought in should have happened earlier. I disagree with him fundamentally that the army and the police should have been patrolling the streets and nothing will ever change my mind about that. As someone who has worked throughout this and saw first hand, every day, how people were behaving, I don't believe we ever needed that. When lock down began people followed the instructions. The streets were empty. People did lock down. This country isn't full of selfish idiots as some would have you believe, it's full of people who listened to the advice and what they were instructed to do.

The really interesting thing was what he said about South Korea. He believed we could, at that time, follow their lead. I don't believe that was the case. I don't think we had the resources, and the number of infections had past the point where that was possible. By a considerable margin. But we could and should be doing it now. We locked down, we reduced the number of cases, we gave ourselves time to manufacture the resources required to test on a huge scale, to track and trace. He's bang on that South Korea are the model to follow, but we're still not doing it.

My criticism of the government hasn't anything to do with hindsight. It's not what they did 'then' that I care about. While believing they could have done much better I understand why that didn't happen. It's what's happening now that's p*ssing me off. No leadership, no clarity, no plan. It's fk*cing appalling government.

 

He was very good in Interpol's "Evil" video too.

 

Genuinely uncanny.

That would be a fantastic song if they'd stuck with just the bass and the singing. The intro and first couple of lines are brilliant. Then it's 'meh'.

 

3000 deaths in China shook you up that much that you would’ve agreed with a lockdown?? Give over!!
I agree that this govt ****** up early doors, borders shouldn’t been closed etc, but to say it shook you up early doors is ridiculous. 3000 deaths in a population of 11 million(Wuhan I believe). That said, these are the figures the Chinese are saying. If you believe that’s up to you.

 

Yes. What did you think, oh it's only the Chinese?

 

No I didn’t, but it didn’t really shake me when I’d heard of hundreds of deaths thousands of miles from here. Bearing in mind we didn’t have our 1st death till end of feb. I know the govt were slow to react but a lockdown in early March would have been very unpopular. It’s ok looking back, shouldn’t closed the borders after new year but that wasn’t going to happen.