For those of the opinion we should wait for a vaccine

It's not a wild estimate though is it? It's probably just about right. A thousand people a day were dying pretty soon after lockdown. This figure would have at least been maintained with no lockdown. In fact these figures would have increased further like I said as there would not have been enough facility to try and save people's lives.

 

Ok then - I don’t agree but we’ll go with it - so that extrapolates to 8 children. The argument still applies that the only reason for schools to be closed is for the teachers and their families and not for the safety of the children.

 

Evidentially that would appear to be the case. So I guess this would be another decision based on containment and diminishing the spread.

 

How are they incomparable to the individual who has them or who dies as a result of then?

 

For some reason you've chose to interpret what I've said and completely change it to suit your agenda. Wasn't it you that a couple of weeks ago completely wrote off a whole swathe of our population as collateral damage?

 

I haven't changed what you said. You said the two were incomparable. Go look up what the word means. I simply stated that for the individual who has it they are certainly are.
In a wider scale you are correct we can't compare as it would take many years to see the long term impact of Covid19. If it continues to kill year after year in the way flu does or not.
To your second point no I've never said such a thing, which is ironic that you accuse me of misinterpreting yourself and then accuse me of something I have never said.
I don't wish to argue with anyone so I'll leave it at that for now and let you be.
Take care.

 

Thanks I'll have a look back and try to find it. I'm pretty certain it was you though. If not I will apologise.

 

One case CV19 in the Bristol School resulted in 18 families self isolating with over 200 individuals impacted. Many of them key workers.

The majority scientific opinion seems to be that without track and trace lifting restrictions including schools is a gamble. It could be a dangerous gamble.

I’m also unclear how being put in bubbles and being forbidden from acting normally will aid kids social development as there is no evidence for that either way.

https://www.adph.org.uk/2020/05/adp...rship-careful-preparation-and-measured-steps/

Beyond that the logistics haven’t been thought out.

https://www.newstatesman.com/politi...schools-question-logistics-not-risks-teachers

 

We do know what the uncontrolled infection rate of Covid19 is, so let’s say there really were 100 infected people in November, by January there’d have been thousands of infected people. One infected person in a packed pub at Christmas would have infected many.

as we’ve been trying to tell you for months now - THAT is the difference between flu and Covid 19, not the severity, not even the death rate - but the infection rate is what makes it so dangerous.

 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8376105/Is-Covid-19-really-potent.html

So it could be doing just what SARS did in weakening over time.

 

Even with your figures that still shows covid-19 is nowhere near as deadly as flu for younger people. It's the elderly it's targeting and all the evidence supports that.

Flu kills all ages, covid-19 kills a much higher percentage of elderly people and lower percentage of young.

The reason it kills more ethnic minorities is that ethnic minorities in the UK statistically have a lower health and a much higher rate of serious illnesses of the nature that covid-19 kills. They also live in bigger households where there are more people together increasing the rate of transmission.

 

I said that months ago

 

Looks like it ST.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...wZRNZQ9_i6UlAwA6-3i1uDO8dA#Echobox=1591013269

 

It's the elderly it's targeting

Covid 19 ent got a brain, it's thick as f**k, it doesn't target the elderly it targets everybody.

 

Ok, i give in. Covid 19 is a hoax. It was just the flu all along.
FFS.

 

Look at how far on Queensland are because Australia coped well......



Many of our hospitals haven't reported a death in the past two days, which is a great sign.....

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/breaking-coronavirus-deaths-hospital-trusts-22120262

What gets me is WHO of all people still aren't recommending masks.......

https://www.who.int/emergencies/dis...9/advice-for-public/when-and-how-to-use-masks

 

In early December I sent a text to someone, saying we were all down with a bad cold that left us aching and with no sense of smell. Seems a bit early for Covid19.

 

You are by no means the only people I know who have reported COVID like symptoms and illnesses from December through early January before the first case was confirmed in the UK. The BBC Medical guy Fergus Walsh has tested positive for Covid antibodies but he said he hadn't had it. Oh, he did have a bout of pneumonia in early January but that couldn't have been COVID he decided because it was before the first confirmed case. Is the man stupid? You could find out if you are willing to thoil £69 for a private antibody test.

 

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/06/01/no-evidence-suggest-coronavirus-second-wave-coming/

If a vaccine doesn't come there is hope that we won't get a second wave.

 

Creates it’s own straw man to beat - typical Telegraph