Protest being organised in barnsley

Good for her, standing up for something that is right. The way I see it the authorities and the powers that be want to shut down the uprising against racism as quickly as possible because they can't bear the thought of a better world where equality is achieved and the police (in America at least) rule not with the threat of a gun but with reassurance, assistance and empathy.

 

I did caution her against rioting and looting!

 

Just in case she doesn't listen to you I could do with a new telly

 

It will only get better when people just think of people as people,will not be going protesting though because it does not feel as if it will do any good, hopefully future generations can sort it out better and be kind to each other

 

Shocking lack of social distancing. Sticking two fingers up to what's best thing to go to protect everyone. They should all be ashamed.

 

In another thread you were saying to ease lockdown further, make up your mind!

 

Yes we should ease lockdown further but keep social distancing for now. Shield the over 60s and those with underlying health conditions and relax restrictions for the rest. Masks on public transports extend it to any public enclosed space such as a supermarket and hopefully people might be able to have a restriction free summer holiday.

 

It's possible to want lockdown eased whilst wanting social distancing to remain. Thats much less hypocritical than wanting a full lockdown but also supporting mass gatherings just because someone supports their cause.

 

They're sticking two fingers up to racism that has been allowed to fester and spread into every walk of life over centuries. The only shame for that rests with the world and the generations that pass it on.

 

Covid lockdowns, inequalities, alt right backed fake news and interference and police forces resembling an occupying military force all have created the perfect storm.

I'm not easily shocked, I know our police at times can overstep the mark but the actions of some police forces are frightening.
It's so disjointed, the amount different police forces in each location confuses the situation.
Also why are police in Houston dealing with peaceful protesters (members of the public) differently to Dallas where cops have been violent and sneaky.
Having visited Texas folk in Dallas and Houston aren't that different and they're quite progressive cities.

 

Lockdown only matters when you want it to it seems.

 

Racism only matters when you want it to it seems.

 

Racism matters all the time.
Police brutality only matters when the victim is black. That's the truth.

 

Not true at all. Did you see the video of the old guy who was pushed and fell back and hit his head? I just read about a girl who was sprayed with tear gas triggering an asthma attack. She passed away today. Both are white. This is the point. The police have blood on their hands regardless of colour. The world has blood on its hands right now because of colour, and people are rightly enraged.

 

Yes I've seen those and thats my exact point. Police especially in America have a long history of brutality REGARDLESS OF COLOUR. If they get a chance they will take it. That's the issue. That's what should have been raised. But it wasn't? The protests are that specifically black lives matter. That specifically the police are racist.

There were no riots or looting when Daniel Shaver was executed on video. Nobody cared. We all tutted and said 'golly gosh that's not nice'. When it's a black guy it's all screaming and hysterical cries that the police MUST be racist.
No. The police are thugs. And whilever we try to make it a race issue the problem will not be solved.

 

I think it goes much much deeper than that and has built up over millennia. The current slogan being used is 'All lives dont matter until black lives matter'. This is an issue that has been brushed under the carpet for too long by passive bystanders, and has been aggressively pursued by those in power and outward racists. It goes right to the top and you only need to look at people like Trump and Johnson as examples. It's frightening. I don't think we're going to agree on this as we hold different views but I respect your opinion. And thank you for not getting personal, I see too many debates break down because people resort to personal insults.

 

2 demonstations in South Yorkshire at the same time? How come the one in Barnsley didn't have to move to a 12 noon start?

 

The police are not thugs.

Some individuals who are in the police are thugs, or at least use their position to behave improperly, sometimes violently so.

There are thugs in all sorts of jobs, or without jobs.

We should not tolerate unlawful aggression, wherever it appears.

 

3 match ban for McGeehan instead?

 

I don't see the point. I've been called a racist by Donny red because I feel that this killing alone doesn't demonstrate racisn. So I won't get overly personal with reasonable posters for having views.

By the way for clarity I do think there is racism in America (and UK) on differing levels. Trump is definitely racist so is Boris for example. There is historical racism that has led to a lack of opportunities for black people especially in America and honestly I don't know how you break that cycle without overly finding the areas they live in to create opportunities.

The one area I think people are wrong though is in claiming that the police force, frontline, is racist. I'm sure there are racist cops just as I'm sure there are racist black cops (I imagine more white than black though) but on the whole I think that killings by police over there stems from a violent culture where everyone is armed and questions are asked after someone is killed. Police have power that they can abuse because the law sides with them but I firmly believe that's the case for black, white or any other victim that the police come up against. The actions of the police in dealing with protestors of all colours demonstrates my point imo. As does the not guilty verdict for the officer who murdered Daniel Shaver and others.

Imo there are two different issues being mixed together. One is the lack of opportunities for black people due to historical racism. The other is police brutality against anyone and everyone. They're two different issues that need dealing with individually and by trying to link them as one issue I believe that's why nothing changes. Because it can't change when it isn't the true problem.