Board needs to move on

Can't see Barnsley FC moving forward with these owners. They are not interested whatsoever in the fortunes of the club or the fans. When you look at the club's they have purchased, tried to purchase and are in the process of trying to purchase you realise what BFC are to them.....an investment to make their consortium more money. Perhaps BFC will follow Nice FC and be sold to another investor(hopefully somebody like PC who was a fan too-unlikely but here is hoping). As for the immediate future - well it is looking bleak. I think Struber as with Stendel and Morais will walk when we go down. It is not his fault, but he could not do what Stendel, Morais or Hecky could not. If you sell your better players you don't get better as a result. It's not rocket science. We need manager who knows the english leagues and a board to back them with investment.
Here's hoping . Oh and before you may ask. I have just renewed my season ticket for next season because unlike the board my loyalty is to my local football club not business interests only.

 

I don't get this needing a manager that knows the English leagues, plenty of clubs that are doing well don't have them. I'm happy to have either as long as they deliver ,

 

It took PC many years to sell so what makes you think we’ll find a buyer ASAP?

 

Your argument is based on a fundamental contradiction.
If the owners “are not interested whatsoever in the fortunes of the club or the fans” then how do you suggest that they are going to “make more money” from their investment?

 

By selling club on for a profit,like they did at Nice

 

There is no incentive for them to change anything though, is there?

 

The club has to be better to sell for a profit though.
They fell lucky with Nice with the training complex etc increasing the value.

 

But if they run down the club, alienate the fans and consequently reduce revenues, who do you think is going to come along and pay them a profit on their investment?

 

As championship clubs go, repaying the £6.2m Patrick was owed and £1m pa for five years hardly looks like a big investment. Especially when the club had £5m cash on balance sheet.

It almost feels like Barnsley is a bit of a free spin for them.

 

The only fortune they are interested in is their own. Providing the club is making a profit by selling players they don't give a bugger which league we are in. As soon as we stop making a profit they will be off. It took P C a long time to sell the club with that I can't disagree but PC was a fan. If perhaps he had not taken ill then maybe he would still be the owner and we would not be in the mess we are in -we will never know. But I just get the feeling that when we are relegated a pile of sh_t will hit the fan ( electrical not supporter that is)

 

We posted a £3,000,000 loss last year buddy.

 

I agree. I've never understood that or the "they don't know how teams play in the championship". Why does that matter? Why can't it be a case of the championship teams we play against don't know how WE play? Why is it automatically an advantage to them not to us?

 

Really £3,000,000 and that's after selling Potts,Pinock, Lyndsey and Moore. Well goodress knows how much we will be losing this year according to the board then this year. Perhaps we need to hire an accountant like the one that sorted out Ken Dodds finances

 

That was for the year ending 31 May 2019 and reflected our year in league one and before the sales you listed.

The actual loss was £3.4m and mainly came about because of the loss of the EFL championship distribution. Roughly £6m less in league one.

Current owner investment from takeover to 31 May 2019 is £0.

 

£3,400,000 to be precise. Only the Potts transfer came within that financial year. The accounts are free to view online.

 

Surely like players ,it takes a foreign manager to experience the type and qualities of players it needs to compete in the upper reaches english leagues. I know Klopp and Pep are foreign managers but their clubs have had money thrown at them. European football is played at a different pace and style than the 100 mph of the championship and upper reaches of league1. DS inherited some players who had just dropped out of the championship and worked on the pressing style with Moore as an option in case plan A needed changing. But Struber didn't even get that opportunity and such as Thiam,Cavare,Pinillos,Mc Geehan and recently Dougall sank without trace . Solbaur and Ludwig and has done well but as for Ritzmaier and Schmidt, well need I say more. Surely some of the afore mentioned were no worse than some of the recent acquisitions. The young lads in the team have tried hard but they have been asked to do too much in such inexperiened side.

 

The recent Wilks transfer saga tells you all you need to know.

he was on loan at Hull, we had a few options

extend the loan, this helps Hull a relegation rival and potentially earns no cash as they could decide not to buy him at the end of the loan

recall him from loan as the loan ended 30th June, Damages Hulls chances but earns no cash

sell him, tell Hull they must exercise there option to buy at the agreed fee if they want him for the last 6 games, strengthening a rival team but also potentially severely hurting your own team on the pitch but earning a fair wedge of cash

I wonder which one our board chose.

 

The directors don’t need to move on - but they definitely need to up their game.
There’s been a catalogue of poor decisions since they took over at the club.
They clearly don’t understand football - and us fans and the town are suffering because of that.
Obviously not as cute as what they think they are.

 

What I don't get with all these thread is they always have the line in there about us getting an owner who will 'invest in the club'. Now for it to be an investment that means looking to be making a profit or at least break even which is what PC tried to do and the strategy is the same now.

So the only other alternative to the current offering is that our owners put money in that the club can never sustain so when they do decide to sell we are debt ridden and look like doing a Bolton.

Another alternative would be for all supporters to pay triple for season tickets and pay on the day to Bank roll the club at a push, but nobody would pay it.

I'm quite happy with the general philosophy of keeping a sound financial balance. All that need to happen is the transfer strategy adjusting to suit the championship to reflect the step up in quality. Now that may take another 2 or 3 promotion and relegation seasons, but the idea is to slowly develop the squad as a whole with added value. We will always have players in the shop window, and will always sell to maintain a financial balance.

So if the board do adjust the settings so to speak, which Dane Murphy already admitted hadn't worked and would be held accountable for this then that is progress.

The constant suggestion of non existent owners who will bankroll us, refuse transfers is exactly that... None existent..

We don't want to become another Bury, Bolton or Wigan.

Next season, regardless of league will show us if the board have indeed tweaked our transfer policy. We can never keep hold of everyone, it would be unrealistic to think that but let's wait and see. When they took over people accepted that we were a long term project, we are exactly that.. Take the rough with the smooth, keep backing the team and manager and be thankful wendon't have a club living month on month scenario.

If we are relegated, we need to see that next season we have the team to bounce straight back (a sign of progress IMO). If we flounder at league 1 level then obviously the inquest needs to be deeper.

My view anyway. Accept mistakes have been made and learn from them. In practical terms, this is this boards first real shot at championship football, having a full season under their tenure completely..

 

Leeds, Brentford, West Brom, Notts forest top 6 with foreign managers.

Luton, Wigan, Stoke, Huddersfield, Charlton, Boro all near the bottom with English managers

Really can't see the nationality of a manager being overly important.