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  1. BarnsleyReds

    BarnsleyReds Well-Known Member

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    It's probably going to be weeks before we find out who actually won. The worrying thing is that Trump now has 3 Supreme Court judges loyal to him. They're going to try and steal the election I worry.
     
    BarnsleyReds, Oct 28, 2020
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    No US politician gets to the position he's in without some skeletons in the cupboard, I'm sure Biden is no exception. Trump's got so many skeletons he can't find a big enough cupboard...
     
    Brush, Oct 28, 2020
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    do you believe the fox news article? do you believe that is the honest truth with no bias?
     
    pompey_red, Oct 28, 2020
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  4. casual tyke

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    Here’s a question for you.... Do you disbelieve the testimony of Tony Bobulinski simply because it has been broadcast on the Fox News channel and you have an inherent distrust of that particular channel? This is a man who has been interviewed by the FBI who, if lying about the man running for the US presidency, would be opening himself up to the most horrendous law suit. He also has audio recordings, verified emails and text messages to back up what he is saying.

    Is he lying or is he truthfully exposing the biggest corruption scandal in US history? I personally believe what he is saying is true. What you believe is entirely up to you.
     
    casual tyke, Oct 28, 2020
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    You don’t think it’s a bit suspicious that this is coming out a week before the election? Around the same time frame as the email **** came up about Hillary in 2016, which won the conman the presidency in the first place?

    Thankfully it seems it’s not having an effect this year, based on current polling, which is the difference from 2016. People are less likely to give Trump a chance this year after seeing how disgraceful he’s been for the last 4 years.
     
    BarnsleyReds, Oct 28, 2020
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    Had 3 years to report this and he's waited a week before the election, why?

    I personally think he's been offered money by the Trump organisation to come up with some sh*t, this falls in with how the bloke has multiple failed businesses and he's just lost a law suit to the tune of 643k Dollars.

    If Trump is allowed to bring guests to the last debate then hopefully Biden should be allowed to bring Elizabeth Jean Carroll.
     
    wombwell-red, Oct 28, 2020
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    There's no more debates I don't think
     
    BarnsleyReds, Oct 28, 2020
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  8. casual tyke

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    I think that the timing of the story is certainly in Trump's favour but that doesn't necessarily deter me against believing the credibility of the witness. Bearing in mind that the interview was aired on US TV at 8pm last night I would have expected a statement from the Biden camp denying the allegations by now, but there hasn't been anything as of now.

    I can understand why certain people might find Fox News a questionable information source so here's a link to an interesting report by the Senate Homeland Security and Government Affairs Committee (US Government agency) considering whether or not there was a conflict of interest in Hunter Biden being an executive board member of the Ukrainian energy company Burisma while his dad, Joe Biden (who was American Vice President under Obama), was overseeing US international diplomatic relations with Ukraine. Its worth bearing in mind that Hunter Biden had no experience of the energy industry or working in the Ukraine prior to this appointment for which he was paid a staggering $100,000 per month.

    https://www.hsgac.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/HSGAC_Finance_Report_FINAL.pdf


    Below is a Youtube (not Fox News) video of Joe Biden bragging at a Council of Foreign Relations meeting about forcing the sacking of the Ukrainian Prosecutor General, Victor Shokin, who was investigating Burisma in respect of corruption, money laundering and tax evasion. Joe Biden made it clear to the Ukrainian president that Ukraine would only receive $1billion of US loan guarantees if Shokin was dismissed with immediate effect. I've also added a link to the Viktor Shokin Wikipedia page which gives further details.



    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viktor_Shokin
     
    casual tyke, Oct 28, 2020
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    I think the difference between the Corbyn example and Trump is that Trump attempts to dismiss things which are demonstrably true. His ******** even has its own Wikipedia page - https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Veracity_of_statements_by_Donald_Trump
     
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    This was a double post but I'll use it for this instead:

     
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  11. casual tyke

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    Trump and Biden are both old men and it appears that they both forget what they have said previously on occasion

     
    casual tyke, Oct 28, 2020
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    Good example. But Biden was the same in the last debate claiming he didn't say things which he'd said multiple times.

    There's also evidence, and some of it could be argued to be in that video, where you take one line on it's own out of context and it supports a narrative. The media on both sides do this an awful lot, and when people seek out the full clip or the full story, they realise it doesn't link with the headline. That's my biggest frustration with the media clickbait.
     
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    Current predictions have Biden at an 89% chance of victory in the electoral college and 97% chance of winning the popular vote.

    This is taking into account current state-wide polling, along with data such as voting history (aka change in voting from 2016 to 2018 in key districts) and demographics.

    Can’t see anything but a Biden victory at this point.
     
    BarnsleyReds, Oct 29, 2020
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    Trump has Nigel Farage on his side and that's a man who knows how to win a vote.

     
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    This time 4 years ago the same polls had Hillary Clinton at 92% likely to win. I’m sufficiently confident of a Trump win that I’ve increased my bet to £200. Hopefully I will find out whether I have backed the right horse in 6 days time.
     
    casual tyke, Oct 29, 2020
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    He certainly does. Especially against a man in a dolphin costume...
     
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    i.m with you,i honestly think trumpy boy will triumph and i've seen odds at 50-1 so if i think on on i'm going to have a few quid on him.
     
    dekparker, Oct 29, 2020
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    lost every election he’s ever fought.
     
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    Saw Farages fawning and cringeworthy speech praising " the Donald" on the ITV
    News bulletin earlier this evening. When he first became involved in British politics,
    Farage made no secret of his plans to hopefully quit Britain to make a new life for himself
    and his family in the States at some point in the future

    He's obviously had a vested interest ( that we are not yet aware of, ) in ensuring that the
    UK left the European Union. If Trump gets four more years, I for one wouldn't be at all
    capped if Farage didn't surface as a delegate representing the USA in any future trade talks
    with the UK. It's obvious that Trump rates him and with his experience as a former trader in
    the City and his inside knowledge of British political protocol, he could prove invaluable.
     
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    Agree wholeheartedly DK. Biden has a narrow four point lead, but Trumps campaign seems to
    be gaining traction. Pundits are saying that non democratic tactics are in play and they fully
    expect Trump to be returned to office. Saw a programme the other day where it was alleged
    that Trumps claim to have contracted Covid, was stage managed in a desperate attempt to
    have the electorate who had not yet decided feel some sympathy and vote for him.
     
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