Real/other COVID Symptoms

The problem is the lab capacity, they've already drafted in people who aren't qualified to work in a safe and clean environment working in testing labs because of the demand, this is only going to drive false positives up.

 

Jay it was very widely reported, I'm surprised you've missed it.....although I have to say...on re-reading the articles it's not absolutely cut and dried tbh.

https://www.news18.com/news/sports/...id-19-spread-in-china-in-october-2625391.html

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/french-army-returned-wuhan-military-21988912

https://www.insidethegames.biz/articles/1094347/world-military-games-illness-covid-19

 

I had heard the story, but haven't seen a single shred of evidence that it was Covid-19. The story is basically some athletes got sick. As they do at all international competitions when people travel from all over the world.

 

If I can find the graph the UK in december had a massive spike in 'flu' cases in December

 

That would be exactly the time of year you'd get a massive spike in flu cases though.

I just don't think there's anything to be gained from this speculation that it was here before. We've always had respiratory diseases. They've always made people really ill and claimed lives. They've always spiked in the winter months. The number of people infected has always been huge. If you had such an infection in the winter of 2019-20 it doesn't mean you had Covid-19. Influenza is a horrible disease, which can for many be much worse than Covid-19, so there's no bonus points for it being covid rather than the flu.

If I see any actual evidence of Covid-19 prior to the official account then obviously I'll change my mind, but as it stands many people were infected with influenza during the winter, as they always are, then later, as we got into the spring, many were infected with Covid-19.

 

There's no point getting a test if you've no symptoms or reason to believe you might have it. I read that the false positive of the government's test is 0.8%. The proportion of the population who are estimated to be asymptomatic infected is significantly lower than that (possibly around 1 in 300 or lower)

This means that if you're asymptomatic and test positive the chance that you actually have covid will only be around 27%, meaning 3 out of every 4 people returning positives will be self-isolating unnecessarily and then possibly swanning around misguidedpy thinking they have some element of immunity.

 

77% of people can have flu but no symptoms.

In England, there are currently 10,308 people being treated in hospital for Covid-19, whereas last week there were only two people admitted to hospital with influenza.

 

I don't think you're immune to it after you catch it and get better.

 

*Just an update on our results, we received our results just before midnight last night so just over 24 hours which I don't think is bad.

Both the wife and I tested positive, our daughter was negative. I feel absolutely fine, only had a slight cough but my wife is feeling really run down. But not too ill, so hopefully over the next couple of days she gets better and I remain the same*

 

Hope you manage to remain feeling ok and your wife feels better soon.

 

Thanks Jamdrop. She's feeling fine and seems to be getting better by the hour.

I find it a bit of a coincidence that we both had symptoms 24 hours after having our flu vaccination. I'm not a covid sceptic but it has got me wondering

 

Perhaps you’d have both been asymptomatic but the flu jab meant your immune system was temporarily lowered/busy? Not sure how it works so probably talking crap.

 

you're not talking crap -
the fact is there's an awful lot that's not understood about covid and I'm not sure if the medics really fully understand the workings of the immune system.
I thought that it wasn't possible to have two active viral conditions ay the same time - you can't have flu and covid at the same time.
Also as we're all isolating ourselves re covid presumably there wont be as many people getting flu or colds this winter????

 

Has anybody had pain/tightness in the lower legs from it?

 

My wife did, I've just got it in my lower back

 

Could they have identified it by testing for the antigens? I know that they don't seem to last very long, hence the evidence of repeat infections, so I suppose it's unlikely.

 

I would have thought that many viruses which normally remain dormant (like type 1 herpes, cold sores) will erupt whenever your immune system is weakened by another virus. I don't get them now but when I was younger I nearly always got an outbreak of cold sores when I had a cold.

 

That test was developed even later. If you want to ensure the antibodies present are from an infection that occurred in November rather than any time later, you'd have to keep your subjects in a hermetically sealed environment until a test to identify antibodies against a disease that no one even knows exists is developed. That, of course, didn't happen. There is no evidence at all that anyone outside of China had Covid-19 last year. None.