Lockdown 2.0 looms

I think it’s only a matter of time until schools close. Like in March just before lockdown, schools are getting emptier and emptier as students are either sent home or staying off in fear. As more and more staff are having to self isolate too (either through testing positive or close contact with someone who has) then that has a knock on affect as there’s only a limited number of cover supervisors. The guidance that previously had us sending only those students sitting immediately next to the affected student home has now got us sending whole classes home. I have no idea how the teachers know if they are coming or going with odd numbers of students in and out every day, switching from live to online lessons one after the other and covering lessons they have no experience in for absent staff at no notice.

 

Education should be included too for me. That’s been main source of infections since beginning of September. Should’ve done 3 weeks earlier tied in with half term break to minimise schools disruption.

 

I know that thought conveniently fits yours and others' narratives, but it is total ********. Nobody wants that at all.

Place your blame with the govt, not people on here concerned about the spread of this and its impact on the NHS.

 

They don't necessarily want it but there are a fair few on here who couldn't care less if people lost their jobs and homes because of it as long as the UK does ok in the covid league table.

 

So we've gone from people "selfishly calling" to not necessarily wanting it in a very short space of time...

Nah, think we will have to agree to disagree on that. Not seen a single comment suggesting what you are inferring. Appreciate it is scary for you and others at the moment, but you're picking a fight with the wrong people.

 

Go on then, name them.

 

Do you not remember the threads about local independent cafes etc going under and the people posting in it saying basically tough ****, they don't care, they're only jobs not lives?

 

No i don’t to be honest.

 

We only went to one very large supermarket in the Mall twice during the first lockdown here Numbers were limited using a traffic light system at the entrance barriers. Security guards were walking round reminding people to safe distance and at checkout tills everyone was being told , again by security guards, to keep their distance whilst queuing. It helps that aside from weekends the footfall is a fraction of what you see in UK supermarkets but nevertheless, whether the Italians are more inclined to adhere to instruction than Brits (I don't know the answer to that) but it did seem to work. Most Italians , around here at least, do veer toward hypochondria so that may have helped.
Now though, Italy has overtaken the UK by some margin on daily infection rate and resistance, particularly amongst the young, to measures imposed by authorities both local and central has increased with demonstrations and some rioting in places like Milan, Napoli, Torino and Rome. Nevertheless, I believe most people deep down knowa new lockdown is the right thing to do but personal circumstances are desperate and another lockdown absolutely disastrous for many. The problem is Govt are trying to handle the economic inmplcations of a Pandemic within teh constraints of the current Capitalist economic system which is not fit for purpose in these exceptional times. A coordinated radical rethink is required, which wont happen of course. The only solution therefore will be the rapid deployment of a vaccine. In the meantime Govts will be firefighting the problems reacting rather than being proactive.

in the meantime for the last 3-4 days I have had slight headache, feeling generally 'under the weather' constantly tired and getting out of breath quite easily. e.g. climbing the stairs (although no cough to speak of but with that feeling of catching my breath at the back of my throat breathing in) . I suppose I should get tested but for the life of me I have no idea how I could have caught it (or anything else) as I have been nowhere near anyone other than my wife for the past few weeks apart form a visit to the frozen food shop to stock up the freezer but that was only a day before the symptoms started. MY wife is currently fine.

 

I think the difference is that in Italy they took measures to make supermarkets safer. In the UK they put on a good show with 2 metre spaced queues outside but once you get through the door the only change was a sticker on the floor.

Asda at chapeltown is the weirdest one. For months there was zero changes (not even stickers on floor that I noticed) but then randomly when infections were at their lowest they put a divider down down the one little section of the store which is widest. The aisles are a free for all, the entrance is a narrow free for all but there's one 3 metre long section near the customer services that's really wide but now is split in half making two narrow walkways where you brush past each other. Then cynic on me thinks this is because the divider is made up of items for sale.

I also think most people (not everyone) triees to be sensible in supermarkets but honestly it's impossible. If you've got someone stole looking at something for ages in an aisle then what are you supposed o do? They refused to widen the aisles so you have to brush past them.

 

It was inevitable, when northern towns and cities need help the government insist local lockdowns are the way forward. Once London cases rise, that’s it the whole country has to lockdown. I can’t imagine the pride of those constituencies in the ‘red wall’ that sent one of those charlatans back to Westminster are feeling since the election.

 

Since September the government has blood on it's hands for me.

If we have Lock Down and keep the Schools and Universities open the deaths will continue to rise.

I want the government to be accountable for the stupid decision they took sending them back.

They're killing the workers that have to go to work along side the serial spreaders.

 

they should definitely have QR scanning and temperature checks on the doors. The temperature check systems are relatively inexpensive so won’t eat into the mega profits of supermarkets anytime soon.

 

I didn’t say any other government though. I said a competent one.

 

many Govts have reacted well. New Zealand, Taiwan, South Korea for example.

 

Don't turn this into a "it isn't his fault" thread.

They're basically following the same path as earlier in the year, with added schools and universities - which all metrics suggest are the biggest sources of infection.

It's madness.

 

That’s the kind of argument that reminds me of 2008 and the global financial crash. Which was all Labour’s fault of course....

 

A lockdown leaving schools and unis open is completely pointless.

 

Once again they're acting too late and once again the UK will be in lockdown for much longer than it needed to be. Shambles. Utter utter shambles.

 

No, they just bring it home and pass it to their parents and grandparents.