US Election

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  1. Mid

    Mido Well-Known Member

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    You’ve just shattered Dreamy’s world.
     
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    casual tyke Active Member

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    Don’t know if this is reliable or otherwise but the video below contains details of the evidence of voter fraud that the Republican Party will be presenting to the courts tomorrow. Have a watch and decide for yourselves. If you think it’s misinformation I suspect you can find contact details for the woman to email her to let her know.

     
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    Lasted about a minute - straight out of Trumps rhetoric
    The media doesn’t call the result of an election!

    think back to every election you’ve ever watched the results of. every single one; presumably the numbers more than a handful.

    now see if you can remember the first ‘official’ call of the result, of course- the media furnished us with figures, swingometers, fancy graphics etc.

    But officially what happens next is that the loser concedes. When it’s clear that you’ve lost an election, you put on your big boy pants and congratulate your opponent. But the media will only wait so long for that to happen.

    the earliest elections I remember are 1979 here and 1980 US, and oddly I remember being moved by Jimmy Carter’s speech. Utter gentleman even though he lost to a sock puppet.

    Do you remember this kind of childish behaviour from any previous losing politician?
     
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    casual tyke Active Member

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    Well that is your prerogative not to watch the video, if you so choose. You can put your fingers in your ears while shouting ‘la la la’ at the same time if you like too.

    Have you stopped to consider what you will do though if the evidence of fraud starts to fall like an unavoidable avalanche over the next few days? I’m not saying it will but, if it does, you are going to wind up looking pretty stupid.
     
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    Now that is a good one.
     
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    casual tyke Active Member

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    I find it works well for me if someone is trying to tell me something I don’t want to hear
     
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    Is that Scientology cult member and conspiracy theory fanatic Leigh Dundas?
     
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    I was desperate for a Biden win, but if there is indeed solid evidence of electoral fraud then, of course, it needs to be properly investigated. Do we think there will only have been Biden-related fraud though?
     
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    You have to remember that the woman in this video is a proven liar.

    Her previous false claims include that wearing a mask causes your oxygen levels to drop up to 20% and can cause sudden death, that vaccinations are a government conspiracy to reduce the population and that the authorities were kidnapping children in America during covid
     
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    I don’t know Old Gimmer but I suspect we might find out. If there is any proof of fraud in any of the five contested states, and I would think 14,000 votes made by dead people would be easy to either substantiate or debunk, then I suspect the Supreme Court might order a full audit of the ballots to protect the integrity of the election process. If that happens then I would think any instance of fraud by either party would be spotlighted.
     
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    From the article she constantly refers to.

    Statistical Impossibilities in Wisconsin and Michigan:

    In Wisconsin, voter turnout matched the record high of 2004. The Wisconsin Elections Commission uses the estimated voting age population as the denominator when calculating statewide voter turnout numbers. According to the Elections Commission, there was a 73 percent turnout in this Wisconsin election.

    Turnout was 67 percent in 2016; 70 percent in 2012; 69 percent in 2008; and 73 percent in 2004. Apparently Joe Biden smashed Barack Obama’s 2008 turnout in most places in the country.


    So it isn't impossible then. How can it be impossible for 73% to turn out when exactly the same amount did turn out just 16 years ago and since then the turnout has always been extremely high?
    Someone needs to learn what impossible means
     
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    Behave. Let's get rid of this sneaky little concession clause, shall we? If Trump concedes, Biden wins...and you pay up.
     
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    Article claim:


    According to SOME analysts, Biden’s Vote Tallies Violate Benford’s Law. All of the other candidates’ tallies follow Benford’s law across the country, except for Biden’s when he gets in a tight race. Biden pretty clearly fails an accepted test for catching election fraud, used by the State Department and forensic accountants.


    Reality:


    Benford's Law is problematical at best as a forensic tool when applied to elections. Looking at simulations designed to model both fair and fraudulent contests as well as data drawn from elections we know, on the basis of other investigations, were either permeated by fraud or unlikely to have experienced any measurable malfeasance, we find that conformity with and deviations from Benford's Law follow no pattern.
     
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    Claim in article:
    Dead citizens have voted for biden. William Bradley born 109 and died 1984 voted.

    Reality: William Bradley born in 1959 and very much still alive voted. Hisnvote was initially accidentally registered to his grandfather (I think it was his grandfather) who he shared the same name and loved in the same zip code.
     
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    How can this ***** carry on being discussed? Don’t we think that if there was any widespread fraud then the organisations whose remit is to call out fraud would do so? It’s just another symptom of a totally @uc@d up world. Conspiracy gone mad.
     
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    said without any hint of irony about how stupid you look now.
     
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    I haven’t got the foggiest who she is but you seem to so I’ll take your word for it. She could be a complete crackpot for all I know. The fact of the matter though, is that courts consider facts put to them by suitably qualified legal professionals and I would think that there will be some very credible, big-hitter lawyers involved. The Judges in the courts will look at the nature of the evidence and the reliability of the source and then reach a decision based on that. If the video wasn’t scientologist cult member Leigh Dundas but Miss Piggy or Wonder Woman instead, it wouldn’t change that fact.

    I’m not here to tell you what to think Mr Super Tyke and I can’t be arsed trying to wind anyone up now, because with the notable exception of BarnsleyReds, no one else has offered enough substance to make it feel even the least bit worthwhile. What it will do though is post bits of what appears to be credible information I come across relating to the alleged election fraud and people can choose to look or not and decide what they want to believe for themselves.
     
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    My only worry still is that biased judges appointed by Trump will rule in Trump’s favour despite a lack of evidence. We’ll have to see though.
     
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    Of course. I wasn’t trying to be sneaky. I was just suggesting that we don’t need to leave it until January so if we are both in agreement that the bet has been won or lost before then.

    What would be your charity out of interest? I regularly donate to Shelter so that would be mine.
     
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    Claim in article: A lot of people Born on 01/01/1900 have voted for biden

    Reality: A computer error incorrectly out people's birth date as being the earliest possible in the system. For example 53 year old Veronica Lynn Christian voted in the election. She was born in 1967 and is alive and kicking on chalfonte street in Detroit Michigan but the computer error recorded her date of birth as 01/01/00


    Do I need to continue debunking the lies that the cult member claims?
     
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