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  1. Mis

    MiserablePontyEnder Well-Known Member

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    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/54973241

    The United States Senate has passed a bill that will allow US officials to prosecute anyone involved in doping at international sporting events.

    The Rodchenkov Anti-Doping Act, named after Russian whistleblower Grigory Rodchenkov, is set to be signed into law by President Donald Trump.

    The potential penalties include fines of up to $1m (£756,000) or prison sentences of up to 10 years.

    Edit: This isn't the full article. Just picked a couple of paragraphs out.
     
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    Redhelen Well-Known Member

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    Surely they cant act unilaterally over sonething like this? I'd just refuse to allow US sportsmen/women to compete in proper world competitions if I was running a sport!
     
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    What does it mean in real terms? If I host a sporting event in Barnsley and I allow an American to enter does that mean the US Government can prosecute a Barnsley based coach if he fails a drugs test?
     
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    US professional and College athletes exempt!!
     
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    That’s my reading of it. Though that would depend on the Uk agreeing that it was an extraditable offence otherwise it’s unenforceable in practice.
     
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    SuperTyke Well-Known Member

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    I know this might be. A bit of a daft question but if a brit goes on holiday to America and is murdered in America by an American can the suspect be extradited to the UK because it's a British victim or would it have to be dealt with by the country it happens in?
    I've only ever really imagined it happening where the crime happens in a country and the suspect leaves so is extradited back to where it happened or where the crime is done online so it sort of happens in both countries
     
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    Redhelen Well-Known Member

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    Sounds along those lines from the limited info posted.
     
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    The crimes would not necessarily have to take place in the United States and this international reach of US law has sparked criticism from the World Anti-Doping Agency because of its “extraterritorial” jurisdiction. Taken from Cycling news

    The Rodchenkov Act will apply to all competitions held in accordance with the World Anti-Doping Agency (WADA) rules. Under this Act Washington will be able to prosecute any person on the globe, involved in competitions where the US is present, be it an athlete or sponsor. However, the Act won’t apply to North America’s professional leagues (the National Basketball Association (NBA) and the National Hockey League (NHL), which have not adopted WADA’s code. - Taken from Tass.com Russian news agency.
     
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    Hilarious seeing as NFL is basically competitive steroid abuse.
     
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    mansfield_red Well-Known Member

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    Also Icarus is a great documentary if anyone hasn't seen it, it's on Netflix. It starts off being about an amateur cyclist who is going to try doping but he ends up getting involved with Rodchenkov just as news starts emerging regarding Russian state sponsored doping.
     
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    Looks like it’s not a criminal law but within the scope of WADA. I stand corrected apparently it can lead to a million $ fine and upto 10 years.
     
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    Donny-Red Well-Known Member

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    Firstly IANAL
    As a general rule, a criminal is tried in the jurisdiction where the offence occurred.

    There are exceptions though, where crimes are international (terrorism, drug smuggling) and then it comes down to diplomacy (usually the Yanks win those arguments).
     
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    Lucky *******, ar lass won't let me
     
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    Donny-Red Well-Known Member

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    You should cook her a nice dinner, it worked for me ;)
     

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