Form is temporary, class is permanent. Woodrow is an integral part of our team. It's only this morning that several plaudits were lauding him as one of the best strikers in the Championship. A fwe very short weeks ago we were all worried that we were going to lose him in the transfer window for a ridiculously low fee. One off par performance and he's ****, need to get rid.
Talking about this season though. I though Woodrow was good first season in league. . Ok last season but apparently out of position. Poor this season. Don’t think he’s good enough for championship. We need a more clinical striker
Neither Chaplin nor Woodrow were good today. Sometimes they are, but too often they aren't. The difference between the sides today was the finishing prowess of the forwards. Blackburn's scorers will have cost far more than ours. And today it evidences that you get what you pay for. Having regard to the way we operate in terms of player recruitment, the troubling thing is that I doubt any of our strikers (apart possibly from Victor) are going to get any better.
Just for balance. I think that not only is Cauley Woodrow Championship class, he's the best striker we've had since Bruce Dyer. Also, I believe he's been the most likely to cause problems for the opposition.
This is the main point. Blackburn had Armstrong, a striker who has pace and is a good finisher. Woodrow may be a good finisher when in form, but pace is so important in this league, and Armstrong is an absolute menace with his pace, something Woodrow will never have, and if he did, he wouldn’t be playing for us. Budget and wages. The most important thing in football. Some on here should think on and remember this when they bash our board, the players etc.
He's not very fast. Admittedly, his legs move like bees wings, but he's that short, he doesn't actually cover the ground quicker than a lot of players. His pace is OK but no more. You never see him breaking through, outpacing the defence, because he's not very fast.
I think Woodrow is a class act too. Not sure he was better than Winnall but he was the best finisher I've seen play for us in my 40+ years of watching.
"Not very good but miles better than the awful overrated Woodrow" Actually I have to , kind of agree with him. "Awful" a bit OTT but......... In the cold light of day, for all the comments about him being one of our very few, if not our only, Championship quality player)s) (and I must caveat the following opinions with the fact that I haven't seen a match this season) I simply do not understand all the positive comments that he gets on this BB Regardless of the fact some argue that he his handicapped by being played out of position my concern is his appalling strike rate when he does get opportunities. Countless times I have seen him blaze over the bar when he has a sight of goal. How many goals has he scored in open play so far this season, and yet, he has one decent game and scores a goal in open play and suddenly he is a World beater (alright not quite but all is suddenly forgiven) ? Chaplin on the other hand seems to attract criticism most games, albeit qualified. Whilst he too is profligate and often poor when in the final third he does seem to be less anonymous than Woodrow has increasingly become than would reasonably be expected for a 'quality' player. I do recall some saying he "looked disinterested and he was probably moving on" during the transfer window. Missed good opportunities, as I said in thread yesterday, mean more pressure is on the defence to keep clean sheets. Anderson makes a mistake which does occasionally lead to a goal and if the forwards converted good chances created then that would be far less significant. For me, I would trust Mowatt to convert a chance more than Woodrow at the moment and that is saying something. Yesterdays stats were a new low when it comes to shots on target /total number of shots and also the number of corners without any tangible results. I am probably in a small minority but I think Woodrow is vastly overrated, and the occasional flashes of quality are far to infrequent to cover his inconsistency. Again, and only in my opinion, he is not , and never will be, the answer to our lack of goals in the Championship. I genuinely hope he goes on to prove me wrong.
You are seriously comparing Woodrow to Dyer?? Really... I think your memory is failing you T'owd lad!! . Seriously how do you rate Woodrow alongside Hammill for example? He could be inconsistent too but Woodrow never gets my pulse racing when he has the ball like Hammill could.
You've just said you haven't seen a match this season - so even if any of your assumption is correct, then it's pretty pointless of you posting. Its like me saying Maradona was miles better than Pele- despite never watching either of them play. Back on topic, Chaplin is probably our second best forward and probably should play. That says more about our recruitment though than his ability.
Not pointless at all. I have seen enough of Woodrow previous season and added to comments I have read on here and elsewhere, the odd highlights and the all important stats (and since it is only my opinion) I think it is fair for me to post it. He is s striker who has scored how many in open play this season? That in spite of constant reports of the quality build up play. The consistent reports are lack of teeth in the front line of which Cauley is supposed to be the main threat.
Woodrow is certainly not hitting his straps at the moment but he is the best forward at the club when on form - and still not the worst when he isnt. Chaplin for me isn’t at the level - but he is the best we’ve got to play where he does. I think big Victor deserves a run of starts, he’s bigger, stronger, looks a better player than we’ve seen from him in previous seasons, and most importantly, his presence has led to chances and goals. Impact sub might be his best role - but I’d still give him a go, we are toothless up top and he won’t let anyone down for workrate so what is to lose playing him over Frieser or Thomas?
Changing tack (but not my opinion) What do people think is the reason Woodrow is not delivering at the moment given the majority see him as Championship standard ( one poster even stretching it a bit saying he received plaudits for being one of the best strikers in the Championship) and given that he is now allegedly in his favoured position. A true Championship player IMO should be capable of delivering consistency week in week out barring injury. That said it is a team game and as a striker you need the service which according to reports is there. The build up play is evidently good and chances created given how many times we seem to hit the woodwork or hit shots high wide (or both) of the target with Woodrow being as guilty as anyone else? Genuinely I am asking. Is it lack of confidence? technique (don't believe that since he clearly he has talent)? wrong emphasis in training sessions? commitment? lack of focus? That is my reason for believing he is overrated i.e. he is under achieving.
I don't know. What I do know is that for whatever reason, our easiest chances don't seem to fall to him. I can't put my finger on why, but the 'must score' chances seem to end up at the feet of Chaplin, Frieser or Brown before he left- and none of those 3 are good finishers. Maybe Cauley can be criticised for not getting into the positions to get said chances, I don't know. It's also a very small sample size this season - anyone using statistics or precious games as evidence needs to look at longer than 13 or 14 games or whatever it is - a few also he played under Struber. If you take Cauley's record at Championship level over his career then you can build up a better picture of his ability - there is certainly less variance over more games.
Armstrong for Blackburn - sharp, tricky, pace to burn, a constant menace and a brilliant finisher. But we should remember that he's been developing for several seasons. Chaplin seems to have similar attributes and potential. He can be all of those things but currently he's very inconsistent, often weak in possession, gives up possession easily etc. I hope he looked at Armstrong yesterday, learns from him and works even harder to improve. And perhaps we (including me in some of my recent posts) should accept that he like many of our players is developing and won't be at their peak for another 2/3/4 seasons. We know that most of our signings are in the young and with potential category so perhaps despite our frustration on days like yesterday, in a few seasons they might be fantastic. Or perhaps this is just me hoping so.
