Can anyone explain

Why we are told that
1. All our players are signed because of how they fit into the system the board of directors at the club have decided we will play
And
2. Our manager was selected because he is willing to play the system which the board of directors at the club have decided we will play

And yet we have so many players incapable of playing the system which the manager plays.

Because I'm Fu cked if I can work it out

 

Which players do you think are "incapable of playing the system"?

 

I think it's truly weird that the people who choose the system we play aren't football people - they're businessmen.

It's not Dream Team, and Paul Conway is no Linda Block.

 

I think Andersen and helik are awful in a back three. Odour and styles ain't suited to wingbacks, freiser isnt a well whatever we want to say he plays as, Schmidt doesn't fit the system, it's a fairly long list of players who don't really suit

 

I can't believe that when this was admitted there wasn't a much bigger reaction to it. It was just accepted

 

I think Andersen looks much better in a back three to a two. I don’t think it helps him not having a good defender next to him at left wing-back. That’s a priority for January, surely.

Styles should be playing through the middle.

 

I don’t think “high energy press” is a system more a philosophy.

Stendel, Struber and now Ishmael all play a different formation but with the same ideas behind it.

The players have to fit into these formations it’s not rocket science to work out some will and some won’t

 

I think it's more that the squad doesn't suit the system.

We're playing three centre halves, 2 wing backs, 2 central midfield players and three forwards. Rain or shine, come hell or high water, that's what we're playing.

Centre halves: Andersen doesn't look good at the left side of a back three. Partnered with Sollbauer in a two he came on in leaps and bounds. On the left side of a three, getting pulled out to the wing, all the old insecurities and mistakes are coming back. I'm not that sure about Helik. He's hidden between Sollbauer and Andersen, not having to cover down the flanks and not even having to win the ball in the middle as the other two will do it. On the few occasions he is called upon he tends to fluff his lines more often than not.

Wing backs: We haven't got a left sided wing back and we get taken to the cleaners down that side of the pitch every game.

Central midfield: We've got 5 who all look decent to me. The system allows us to play two of them in their best positions. In most games 2 of our better players are on the bench and one is struggling at left wing back.

Forwards: We play three. We haven't got three good forwards. So we fill the team with players from a position that is our weakest.

We've got some decent players and we've got some others who aren't as good but will work hard and I don't believe that we're playing a system that gets the best out of them.

 

Some team positions are more in need than others.

You wouldn't have Andersen in any team. You think he's awful full stop.

Helik I'm still not sure about as being good enough in any system. Same for Schmidt.

Oduor is not a defender, and might be better wide left up front cos he can beat a man. His finishing can't be any worse than who he would replace.

Styles we got when he was a nip cos he had potential. He's not a natural wing back but he could play elsewhere capably within our system.

Freiser could play our system but is not as yet good enough.

Yesterday there was not a great deal wrong with the majority of our play. As everyone now seems to be saying, we're useless at finishing.

I reckon that if we had Blackburn's Gallagher up top, we'd be at least 6 points better off this season. (I know we never will btw).

 

Might be wrong but I think Styles has made more tackles than anyone else in the division.
Not bad for someone who "can't play left wing back"

 

I thought we were paying for professional football players. Whatever the philosophy, playing style or system whenever a new coach comes in to change said system etc the players are paid to adapt. Those that don't, won't or can't are shown the door at the earliest opportunity.

 

Exactly Fi. One (I wouldn't even call it bad) performance and they're not fit for purpose all of a sudden. Admittedly Helik was at fault for their first goal yesterday, running across to instead of covering his marker who scored (Armstrong). That doesn't mean he shouldn't be playing

 

Well it may well be that the system is wrong. That's beyond my brain capacity and takes me to Red Rain and his musings upon formations.

I am trying to look at the individual players and whether they can fit into how we do play. Cos the premise was that many of them can't.

 

I thought in general we were very good yesterday, dominated the game in our system and with our brand of football. But we didn’t score when on top, defended badly and conceded a soft first goal. Again in the second half, we ought to have scored in our dominant spell, but didn’t, and again we defended badly and conceded a second.

The opposition took more of their chances than we did, so deservedly won the game. But we were competitive and gave it a good go against an in-form side, the division’s top scorers, away from home.

16th on 16 points feels about right to me based on all I’ve seen and experienced this season so far. Interested to see if we can push on, fall back or maintain this mid-table position.

 

Hopefully not fall back, its great not having to look over our shoulders . There's a lot of games in a short space of time. All the squad need to play their part, the key thing is actually taking those chances to score.

 

Agree Helen. I'm more than hopeful we can maintain our mid-table position

 

I think December will give us a fair idea. Wycombe, Wednesday and Rotherham to play, less than 6 points from those games could see us fall back

 

I think we are doing well , yep short of a finisher up front but I’m happy where we are . Out played Blackburn most of the game yesterday and should have had a draw against Brentford . Hopefully mid table finish

 

I don't think our problem yesterday was the system or players fitting it. It seems the ones that dont fit are being moved out. However we, yesterday, had a poor defensive performance. Individual lack of concentration and poor execution with more than one player contributed to us conceding two goals from the few attacking moves they made. System A,B,C .... these errors would still have been made.