Bruno Fernandes

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  1. Eaststand Lower

    Eaststand Lower Well-Known Member

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    Horrible fuker

    Leg breaker of a tackle from Luke Shaw and Fernandes try’s getting the decision overturned by chasing after the ref because United didn’t get a free kick after a VAR review
     
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    That was a clear red card and how the referee did not make that decision is shocking
     
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    Well who dose he play for lol.
     
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    Can see Shaw getting brought down in the box with Bruno scoring the pen :-(
     
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    Some shocking decisions in that game - Shaw tackle should be a red and then a joke foul against Maguire for the disallowed goal - if that’s a foul Alan Shearer wouldn’t have got half a dozen in his career.
     
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    No united fan but they should be one up nowt wrong with Maguires header. Shaw is a dirty ****** though
     
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    I don't understand how it was called back to book Shaw - I thought it didn't intervene for bookings, just red cards
     
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    Wasn't it called back because it was retrospectively considered that Shaw had fouled the bloke in the run up to the decision on the Cavani foul?

    Anyway, Shaw's was a yellow and never a red.

    And Maguire's goal should have stood.
     
  9. man

    mansfield_red Well-Known Member

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    But VAR can't just intervene to give free kicks can it - other than in the lead up to a goal or a pen or if the foul is a red card.
     
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    Official statement from the refs:

    "In the 27th minute of Burnley vs. Manchester United, Robbie Brady was shown a yellow card for a foul on Edinson Cavani.

    "On the recommendation of the VAR, referee Kevin Friend went to the Referee Review Area (RRA) to check for a possible red card for Brady for a denial of a goalscoring opportunity offence and a possible foul by Luke Shaw that was in the same attacking phase of play.

    "When the referee was at the screen, he was first shown the challenge by Shaw on Johann Berg Gudmundson. He determined that this was a foul and was part of the phase of play that led to the challenge by Brady.

    "The restart was a Burnley free-kick, with Brady’s yellow card rescinded, and a yellow card issued to Shaw."
     
  11. man

    mansfield_red Well-Known Member

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    So VAR has a general remit to award free kicks now?
     
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    No. It’s only because it was in the same stage of play.

    If that scenario was Luke Shaw’s tackle/clearance to a Burnley player, who crossed it, Maguire clears it, and then the ball through to Cavani comes after, they don’t go back that far otherwise you’re going back the whole game.

    Also, if Cavani ends up scoring that chance they don’t disallow it for the Luke Shaw foul. That’s my understanding anyway.
     
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    Mateo Corbo Well-Known Member

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    I guess they can if the free kick is identified as a result of either checking a goal, pen or red card. All a bit confusing.
     
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    So if United had won a corner rather than a free kick would they have checked it, overruled the corner and awarded the free kick to Burnley?
     
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    No. The only reason they were checking it was for the potential red card for Brady on Cavani. As Luke Shaw’s clearance led to that chance they noticed the foul in the direct build up. If it goes for a corner VAR aren’t involved as there’s no potential Brady red card.
     
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    So if Brady's foul hadn't been so bad then nothing would have happened and United would have kept the free kick? It seems daft that Burnley benefited from Brady's tackle being a red over a less serious foul.
     
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    If Brady had fouled Cavani but he wasn’t the last man, then VAR would have no reason to look at the passage of play that included Luke Shaw’s tackle.

    As it happened Luke Shaw’s tackle/foul directly impacted the stage of play that led to Cavani being through.
     
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    Ignoring the last man issue, if Brady had gone in two footed, knee high and ended Cavani's career he would have gotten away with it because of Shaw's foul and Burnley would have ended up with an attacking free kick. But if it was just a niggly yellow then Man U would have kept the free kick and nothing would have happened to Shaw? That seems completely daft.
     
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    Not sure in that case as in real time if the ref was to play advantage for a bad foul, but then in the same stage of play someone snapped someone in half, it would be a yellow and a red. So something similar likely stands in this case, although it's the opposite way round if that makes sense?

    Like an elbow of the ball. It doesn't matter what happened before it.
     
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    On a side note, don't know if anybody saw it but billy sharps challenge in the earlier match was terrible, ref gave a yellow and var agreed, straight red for me
     

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