Medical Coercion

I think i have spelt it right.

Simple question. Do you support the cocerion of medical treatment on people.

If you do please feel free to explain why and how far do you think that in future this type of treatment will get pushed...

 

Cocerion sounds better.

 

Bit of a loaded poll question!

 

That's way too a wide a spectrum to answer fairly.
But if you mean the vaccinations, if its some p1llocks who would highly likely suffer no ill effects by having it, refusing it just to make a point and therefore putting other people in the community at risk including my family , yes I do.

 

It's not a 'simple question' at all though, is it?

There are tragic cases where people have to be detained and treated under the Mental Health Act - usually for their own good and often for the protection of the wider public. Hard to think many people would oppose the existence of that draconian, but sadly necessary power.

Then let's consider a requirement for health or care workers to be vaccinated. If introduced, that's not really coercion - it is inserting a condition in the terms of employment. The care worker doesn't have to be vaccinated, but does have to agree to be if they wish to continue to work in that profession. Some would say not an unreasonable condition when working with particularly vulnerable members of the public. But the employee has the choice whether to continue.

But are you really asking about enforced vaccination in more general circumstances? I suspect fewer people would agree with that, but either way it isn't going to happen.

 

Anti Vaxer alert, get your tinfoil hat on....

 

Way too wide a question to answer in a yes a no.
I do not support the idea of vaccine passports to try and strong arm healthy people into having drugs put into them they may not want. Its the thin edge of a very scary wedge.

 

Not really. I’ve had the vaccine but I’m against medical coercion. Nothing to do with being anti vax. Unlike the vast majority on here who only started caring about viral transmission in 2020 I have the flu vax every year. Surely asking other people to relinquish bodily autonomy so that you feel safer is the height of extreme selfishness?

 

I think many anti vaxers are not anti because they think the vaccine doesn't work but because they think we are being forced to take it ( we're not) and that a large percentage of them think that 97 year old Barbara, sat in a hospice at the end of life not knowing what day it is, being fed through a tube is going to somehow be micro chipped so whoever can track her

 

Don't mind me, I'm just here for the comments.

 

I completely believe in personal choice. Everyone should be able to choose if they have the vaccine or not, just like everyone should be able to choose to go to a pub, cinema or shop that chooses to prohibit the incorrigible fuckwits who haven't had it.

 

You could equally pose that argument the other way around

 

No. No, you can’t.

You honestly think it’s selfish for a healthy teenager to choose not to take a vaccine still in its experimental phase purely so that old people can feel safer? Give over.

 

I've injected people with antipsychotics who really didn't want them, but they were too poorly to make an informed decision. Not doing so would have posed a risk to themselves and others.

Do you have a problem with that?

 

No it isn't right.

The OP through various posts clearly thinks everyone has a gun to their head with this- you have a choice. Have it or don't. It is as simple as that.

Want to travel in the middle of a global pandemic but don't want to be vaccinated? Tough ****.

Do I think you should be vaccinated to do anything in the UK? No.

 

Mental that people are being called anti-vaxxers, pillocks etc. for being concerned about a novel vaccine the same week that it has emerged that there is a serious clotting side effect that wasn't picked up during testing. As a healthy youngish bloke I'm in no hurry to have it. Not because I think Bill Gates will control me, but because I'm concerned what other effects may be lurking undetected, particularly any long term effects which simply can't have been tested yet.

If that might stop me travelling abroad then that's a decision I have to weigh up and make, but I don't think it should stop me from doing normal activities in this country.

 

Weasel question programmed with the answer you want to get. If you can get your desired response into three words you can work with Johnson in Downing Street.
Nothing about the circumstances under which medical treatment is given. Person in a coma following a motorcycle accident? Person unconscious following a stroke?
I know that that’s not where you want to go with this, but it is part of your “simple question”. If you are talking about vaccinations and I think you are. I’m getting a vaccine to save me and to save you by stamping out this disease.
Simple question: Are you prepared to do the same for me and the rest of the population?

 

You are using the classic bbs tactic of putting words into other other peoples mouths and turning it into a young v old scenario.
All I was suggesting was that your selfish argument could wash both ways. A young vaccinated footballer may think it’s selfish of any of their teammates who are not vaccinated.

 

The clotting has affected less than 80 people in something like 18 million vaccinations last time I saw.

Meanwhile, the contraceptive pill has a rate of 4 in 10,000.

When you weigh it up against the deaths from Covid I personally think it is a risk worth taking. I've had both mine now.

People shouldn't be labelled anti vaxxers, but they shouldn't be blowing stuff out of proportion and scaring others that may need it either. It is a choice and I respect anybody's view about it.

 

True, they may think that.

If they’re a bit daft ;-)