I'm going to try again, because what I'm putting doesn't really explain what I mean. I was approaching a roundabout. There was a car going the other way, not indicating i.e going straight on. I entered the roundabout (as I thought the other car was going straight on) A split second later the other car then indicated right and started turning around the roundabout This caused me to do an emergency stop as I would have hit the other car. I pipped my horn as I believe he was at fault as he should have been indicating. He then put two fingers up at me
I don’t think I’m understanding either. So you went to enter a roundabout when there was a car coming towards you and had to emergency stop because you’d already set off to the point where you was going to hit the other car? It’s safer to not set off until the approaching car has started to turn towards the exit, whether they are indicating or not. Lots of cars indicate that they are exiting and then actually stay on so there’s no way I’d be pulling out on a car that hasn’t indicated either way.
Bear in mind that if you miss your exit you should carry in going round the roundabout, so maybe that was what the other driver was doing? I do agree with you though that signalling does seem to be optional with some drivers on roundabouts.
No, I never said that. The car was going the other way, not indicating, then indicated at the last second as I entered the roundabout Fair enough, I do try and do that nowadays
I’m not sure what you mean by going the other way? The wrong way around the roundabout? I think I need a diagram!
You were lucky that he even bothered to eventually indicate that he was not going straight on. Most of em don't. So you have to assume you're dealing with a moron, and stay where you are until they've done whatever they do. If you're at a roundabout you ought to indicate left if you're taking the first exit, right if you're taking the third exit, and that's it. Although it would be most polite to indicate left once you've passed the first exit, if you're going straight on.
Down here in ‘that London’ no one indicates at roundabouts and rarely at junctions. Places like Hyde Park Corner you close your eyes and get right in there. More like the dodgems but as everyone is expecting that it seems to work. Wouldn’t like to be a tourist trying it though.
Last attempt lol. There are two cars on a road. The road goes East-West. I am travelling West-East, the other car is travelling East-West. There is a roundabout in the middle of this road. The other car doesn't indicate as it goes over the roundabout. I approach the roundabout see the other car not indicating (as it is nearly at the exit) so I enter the roundabout. At this point the other car indicates to go right (my left) and starts to turn. If I carry on I will hit the car that is now turning. That's my final attempt. Please don't ask me to try again lol
Ok, I now understand but they had right of way as they were already on the roundabout so you were still in the wrong (as were they for being annoying).
One of my biggest gripes are the idiots that park outside the Chinese takeaway here in Cudworth... Nothing wrong in that I hear you say....unfortunately the Chinese takeaway is situated between the pelican crossings zig zag lines less than a yard from the actual crossing its self.. one of their Asian delivery drivers parks there often...I once pointed out to him it was dangerous and also illegal he replied don't worry about it the police are too busy to worry where I park
I have been stuck in situations where' local' drivers have deliberately used directional filter lanes that are clear of traffic to queue jump where a specific lane they really want is regularly congested during certain times of day and, whilst it is bloody annoying, I never see the point of 'blocking them off' as if they are stuck in the 'wrong lane' they just hold cars behind up who are intentionally in that lane. I usually just make sarcastic comments out loud to my passenger (or myself) to vent my frustration. The only time I have flashed lights or sounded my horn is when they have nearly taken my front end off with an aggressive manoeuvre forcing their way in and making me brake sharply. That said. Conversely..... As a former DOT ADI I admit I used to, and still do, something that would no doubt (and did) annoy some drivers. On motorways and dual carriageways, I find that when temporary metal 'Roadworks ahead lane closed' signs (notwithstanding matrix gantry signs) are displayed (often showing two or more miles ahead) drivers face a dilemma i.e. when to move over, often resulting in them going into 'panic mode' and immediately moving out of the lane that is closing even when several miles from the roadworks. 'Getting into lane in good time' is sensible EXCEPT if everyone does so at the same time, so far back from the obstruction the result is hat everyonte is crammed into a stationery queue with the other lane totally empty, (halving the capacity) for miles. This often means people then encountering the lengthening queue that has extended beyond the roadworks warning signs are also caught in a dilemma ....i.e. be forced to drive slowly in the other lane trying to slot into non-existent spaces due to people stubbornly closing the gaps so 'these effin queue jumpers' can't get in front of them, OR, drive up to the roadworks and effectively 'force their way in'. I used to choose the latter slowing to around 30 miles per hour looking for gaps ( usually without finding any) and only indicated to move in around 2-300 metres from the lane closure. Even then, 'gaps' would close and people would swear and gesture. They should realise, therefore, *not everyone is deliberately queue jumping and for those stuck in the queue seeing cars driving past, the situation is usually of their own making by not leaving space. LOGICALLY.... if everyone used their brains and on approach 300 or 400 hundred metres from where the road narrows, adjusted their speed to 20 or 30 miles per hour (thus reducing the required safe stopping distance space between vehicles / and by so doing increasing the traffic volume capacity) but still left enough room for vehicles to slot in then the delays would be massively reduced. Also, wherever a car has to slot into a stationery queue it lengthens the delay so the key is to keep the traffic moving. After all, two lanes of traffic moving at 2-30 miles per hour is much better than one lane of traffic brought to a standstill! Unfortunately, the approach above is unlikely to ever come about as advanced driving techniques are not taught. For most people, the basic driving test is as far as they get. I have even encountered drivers stopping at the end of the slip lane when the left hand lane of the motorway has been congested with HGVs, Trying to then join a traffic flow from stationery is nigh on impossible without risking a collision. Drivers SHOULD, when the slip road 'runs out', continue along the hard shoulder, matching speed of traffic until a gap appears (most professional drivers will 'lift' and let you in.) *there are always a selfish minority those who have no intention of looking to' slot in' and blast down the empty lane without lowering their speed (unaware that there are some in the queue who get impatient and may pull out to queue jump without looking), and force there way in. I understand people being angered by that but, nevertheless there is no point getting stressed and angry, trying to block them risking an incident. Keep calm and carry on!
When I took my class 2 test, I had exactly the same scenario, I had to break hard like you. The car continued round without care in world. I passed the test but the examiner told me if the car(not indicating) had braked and stopped he would have had to fail me even though the driver was an idiot.
I must admit I "straddle" lanes in the first scenario because otherwise they no doubt will continue to do it because of course their need to do their journey ad quickly as possible yrumos everyone else's.
