Ollie Robinson

It won't but you try and get over to children that you can't really delete anything you post online - some of the stuff I've seen recently is horrendous

 

I am shocked that neither Ollie or the ECB thought about checking his social media before calling him up. If indeed Ollie doesn't have them same thoughts anymore then surely he knew he did once and therefore would have thought to delete them. But then if the ECB are calling him up they could have easily got someone to go through his feed first and this would have been avoided.

 

Every saint has a past and every sinner has a future. So I’m sure he’ll be back in contention.

 

only technically He,en, I know I was unrecognisable at his age to what I was at 18

 

Of course we all make mistakes but surely knowing you've used the n word in the past in the midst of all the current discussions on racism would make you at the very least delete it?

 

Can ypu remember what you wrote on social media 8 or 9 years ago?

 

No but if I had views that I'd thought better of in light of recent events , I'd have checked . His account is now locked so as I say I'm not sure how much he'd posted on Twitter in between then and now.

 

What the lad did was wrong. At 18 you may be an adult but not mature.
My thoughts are light years away from what I thought and said 45yrs ago. Not the colour of someone’s skin. I can honestly (as far as I can remember) say I never had racist thoughts. Did I use words that are unacceptable in today’s world. absolutely ( eg, P-k- shop, innocently. With no racial tone) I went to Church till around 14/15. I hate what religion has caused in its name. ( an atheist now) But taught properly. Was a great moral grounding.( along with parents, who I’m proud to say never had a backwards outlook on things such as racism. Or sexuality etc. My dad an hairy arsed machine driver darn pit..allus int pub wi his mates. Mi mam. a stay at home mam.) Would I have called myself homophobic. in the seventies. And said things privately that I’m ashamed of, looking back. Absolutely.

I have a gay son, who was afraid to come out to me. ( not because of me. but society in general 25+ yrs ago) my attitudes had changed many yrs before then. Who I’m extremely proud of, and not backwards in coming forwards in that fact.
Going back to Robinson. I personally think a banning, does absolutely nothing. except make the authorities appear in a good light. A severe reprimand and education would have been a more practical solution. As the saying went in church. Let him who is without sin cast the first stone.
I hate the intolerance of those that shout loudest, seemingly, unable to forgive. Sadly I get that impression on here sometimes.
And to boot. I include myself. I struggle to tolerate working class Tories.

 

Not sure if anything constructive can come out of just a one test ban for him. He talked about how he's educated himself in the time since, and got his life back together since then. Maybe he should be sent to counties' academy to give details to the next crop of players on what he's learned.

The ECB should be investigating why no punishment was dished out for 8 years. As it stands, the crime that's been punished isn't so much expressing the views, it's not deleting them before he played for England.

3 years later, Robinson's possible replacement picked up a suspension after three disciplinary offences, the third of which was telling a Pakistan born player to "go back to your own ******* country". Quite why it wasn't deemed sufficient for punishment in it's own right is a mystery. And his comments about it don't really show the same level of remorse and education as Robinson's statement did https://wisden.com/series-stories/e...ou-cant-go-around-doing-what-i-was-doing-then

 

I get what you're saying and I'm glad I'm not making the decision. However, they've just replayed Ebony's piece on Sky when they were talking about the effects of racism with black players last summer
Seeing how upset she was, knowing she's there presenting it just doesn't seem enough somehow just to put it down to follies of youth. A clear message needs to go out , this is not acceptable and it will impact on your career within cricket.

 

It seems commensurate and fair by the ECB in my book, but their mistake was not knowing this before selecting him. I think it fair that he is suspended from international cricket pending an enquiry and, if he can argue his case soundly and distance himself from his views as an 18-year-old, I would think that he would be fully re-instated and will play again for England. I don't think that the ECB had much choice in this. Just hope that they handle the enquiry well. He did sound a bit 'off the rails' as a teenager, but weren't we all? He'll be back, as long as he sticks to his current attitude.

 

It seems daft that England would rather potentially lose a test series by making an example of a decent player. It only benefits the keyboard warriors and faux p.c brigade. They'll move onto someone else now.

Robinsons career is probably ruined now. It's unlikely he'll get picked again now because the ECB won't want more media frenzy. Inevitably if he did return it would be all about him. Look at Alex Hales and before him Kevin Pieterson. Neither of them were jettisoned on cricketing ability.

What irks me the most is someone has gone out to dig this up. I'm not condoning what was said in these tweets. I'm calling out the sorts of scum that set out just to ruin someone's life.

 

Surely how good a player he is shouldn't come into it?

 

If he was crap he wouldn't have been picked in the first place.

 

What you said

 

Maybe I've missed something along the way as to what his mindset is now? All I could think of was if I was him how embarrassed and shitty would I feel talking to someone like Ebony if I'd posted and thought something like that.
I think I go along with what Nasser Hussain said, you can't just play lip service to equality in sports.

 

Do you think he'll return after this?