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      1 He looks a bit weird.
      2 Err...

      That's it. That's all his detractors have got. No one attacks his policies, or his delivery, or his integrity, or his morality, just his face. "Look at Ed, he's pulling a funny face, what a wnaker." Compared to the airbrushed, plastic, perfect human beings we usually see on the telly, he does look a bit weird. Compared to us normal folk, with our beer bellies, receding hair lines, skin like a horror film and features designed by Picasso, he's a reight catch.

      Cameron looks OK. He's never going to win a Mr England competition, but he's perfectly presentable. So if that's what you're in to, vote for him. Ignore the fact that he'll cost you your job and maybe your house, rip the heart out of the NHS, deny your kids a proper education and condemn them to a zero hour contract in a job that will rip the life out of them. Watch them crumble before your eyes if you wish. He looks alright, so he's your man.

      Unless you like a bloke who enjoys a beer, then you can vote for Farage. So long as you ignore that everything he stands for will wipe away what yer mam and yer dad and yer grandparents and yer great grandparents spent their entire lives fighting for. Equality - rich or poor, man or woman, gay or straight, black or white, that's the gift they gave us. It took them about 100 years. You can get rid of it in the time it takes to put a cross on a ballot paper if you like.

      Ed Miliband isn't perfect. Far from it, and he'd be the first to admit it. But he's so far ahead of the opposition that there isn't a choice. Don't destroy the next generation.

      If you vote for Ed things will probably still be shit. But they're not going to continue to get even worse.
      You should see my trail of disgrace
      It's enough to scare the whole human race

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      I miss Screaming Lord Sutch.


      The 99p coin and making it a rule that socks could only be bought in 3s.

      Top policies that swung it for me.

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      Quote Originally Posted by JackTatty View Post
      I miss Screaming Lord Sutch.


      The 99p coin and making it a rule that socks could only be bought in 3s.

      Top policies that swung it for me.
      At least he was having a laugh. UKIP was serious about these policies in 2010;

      ""Ukip will encourage a return to proper dress for major hotels, restaurants and theatres smarter dress is part of Britishness, although it is also a British virtue to encourage innovation in fashion."

      "Ukip will return London's Circle line to a circle the complete circular service recently stopped."

      "Ukip will encourage a return to the glamour, grace and style of the railway companies of the past through its railway policies. Ukip seeks a return to 'Pullman' trains where justified, with appropriate branding such as 'Great Western Railway', one of the most successful British brands ever."

      "The unseemly haste with which National Express destroyed the quality GNER brand by painting out its heraldry on service trains standing at rail stations was a disgrace. As with the iconic red bus in London, so the government should insist on a modernised form of traditional branding chocolate and cream for Great Western, scarlet red for Midland, apple green for the east coast. These are icons of Britishness. Go-Ahead has shown the way with an excellent, tasteful branding of its Southern network."

      "We deeply regret the drift towards swearing oaths of allegiance to the state rather than the monarchy, as with new policemen, which ignores the carefully balanced constitutional arrangement of Britain and risks elevating the authority of the government further. Ukip would require a comprehensive return to swearing allegiance to the Crown from all public servants and British subjects."

      "Rather than playing the 'money-go-round' with the attendant administrative burden, Ukip would abolish Statutory Maternity Pay entirely and simply allow parents who stay at home with their children to claim a weekly parental allowance set at the same level as the basic cash benefit proposed in our welfare policy (in other words, around 64 per week for parents aged 25 and above) regardless of how long they are off work and regardless of the other spouse's income."

      They also wanted to have a dress code for taxi drivers. And yet they didn't win a single seat.

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      Agreed.

      Wish we had a better leader - Dan Jarvis, one day I hope.

      Up here in South Stockton Tory scum have a 300 majority so looking to topple them.

      For me it boils down to;

      Social Conscience v Selfish Greed

      Right v Wrong

      Good v Evil

      So, party with geeky leader 3 - Tory scum 0.

      Come on you reds.

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      Aye, just hope it back fires on em, but wont hold me breath that the gullible will see through it.
      Darn here for dancing.

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      The vast majority of people who don't vote for him will do so because of his policies or because they don't trust him and his party with the economy. He looks weird but most people see beyond this and actually vote on policy.

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      Quote Originally Posted by MarioKempes View Post
      The vast majority of people who don't vote for him will do so because of his policies or because they don't trust him and his party with the economy. He looks weird but most people see beyond this and actually vote on policy.
      exactly

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      Quote Originally Posted by RedYarmy View Post
      Agreed.

      Wish we had a better leader - Dan Jarvis, one day I hope.

      Up here in South Stockton Tory scum have a 300 majority so looking to topple them.

      For me it boils down to;

      Social Conscience v Selfish Greed

      Right v Wrong

      Good v Evil

      So, party with geeky leader 3 - Tory scum 0.

      Come on you reds.
      Dan Jarvis?

      No ta
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      Quote Originally Posted by Redstar View Post
      Dan Jarvis?

      No ta
      He was only 12 during the strike.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Conan Troutman View Post
      He was only 12 during the strike.
      And he's from nottinghamshire...

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      Quote Originally Posted by Redstar View Post
      Dan Jarvis?

      No ta
      Alan Johnson?

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      Quote Originally Posted by MarioKempes View Post
      Alan Johnson?
      Alex Salman?

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      Quote Originally Posted by Dubai Tyke View Post
      Alex Salman?
      Salmond? Not in a million years.

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      Quote Originally Posted by MarioKempes View Post
      Salmond? Not in a million years.
      No, I agree it won't be a million years but instead in about two weeks time, the real PM if Labour get a small lead in the numbers game will be Salmond and that very strange Scottish woman. This is the sorry reality and the only way Miliband can get into number 10. It's a numbers game and SNP are the king makers. Game of thrones....

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      Arabian Ian understands this

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      Quote Originally Posted by Dubai Tyke View Post
      No, I agree it won't be a million years but instead in about two weeks time, the real PM if Labour get a small lead in the numbers game will be Salmond and that very strange Scottish woman. This is the sorry reality and the only way Miliband can get into number 10. It's a numbers game and SNP are the king makers. Game of thrones....
      I don't see the problem.

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      You have to ask yourselves here. Why has the Scottish electorate virtually to a man turned their back on the Labour party in Scotland. Looking like an SNP whitewash of seats.

      Scotland not long ago the bed rock of the Labour party. Now Scotland looking like only retaining 3 or 4 seats for Labour.

      The people of Scotland have spoken and only now are some listening.

      Maybe too late.

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      I don't quite understand why they turned against Labour in such numbers, is it the leader, or nationalism, or a mixture or something else? What's your call on this Ian?

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      Quote Originally Posted by Dubai Tyke View Post
      I don't quite understand why they turned against Labour in such numbers, is it the leader, or nationalism, or a mixture or something else? What's your call on this Ian?
      Nationalism most certainly will have a lot to do with it mate. When Labour in Scotland jumped into bed with the Tories during the Independence election that definitely turned lots against them. The promises which Labour gave us along with the Tories which now turned out to be a pack of lies. Well people do not forget.

      Reading on here Nicola does not seem to be a very popular person by some but she has won over the hearts of almost all here in Scotland. People deserting other parties to vote SNP because she has shown warmth and honesty to the electorate which is something sadly missed by most other leaders.

      Only time will tell whether Nicola and the SNP will be a good or bad thing but one thing is for certain is that we really do need a change and I think she will bring it.

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      Quote Originally Posted by arabian_ian View Post
      You have to ask yourselves here. Why has the Scottish electorate virtually to a man turned their back on the Labour party in Scotland. Looking like an SNP whitewash of seats.

      Scotland not long ago the bed rock of the Labour party. Now Scotland looking like only retaining 3 or 4 seats for Labour.

      The people of Scotland have spoken and only now are some listening.

      Maybe too late.
      Its obvious isn't it? For the same reason that English and welsh labour voters have turned their back on labour. It isn't a Scottish thing, its a human thing
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      Not as simple as that I'm sure SuperTyke, agreed after 5 years of Tory rule who frankly inherited a bad hand of cards due to a combination of overspending and a world collapse in the financial markets, you would think that Labour should normally have a ten point lead in the polls, but it isn't that way. People are more astute than to just say we turn our back on Labour because it's a human thing that we don't like them. There are reasons why Labour are not doing as well as they should. IMO it's partly due to the inept leadership of the two Eds, and they say two heads are better than one? Not in this case tho. Interested to here what Ian thinks.

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      Or the SNP coming to the fore in Scotland and UKIP eating into Labour votes. UKIP, like the SDP before them will split votes short term and disappear into the ether.
      Darn here for dancing.

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      I think that UKIP are more a threat to the Tories and particular the Lib Dems, can't see them affecting the Labour vote much.

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      Time will tell.
      Darn here for dancing.

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      Here you go, Don't Be Scared.

      https://youtu.be/k9GuIUV0ia0

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      She has charisma, I'll give you that, but still doesn't in my mind explain the mass exodus from Labour in Scotland

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      Quote Originally Posted by Dubai Tyke View Post
      She has charisma, I'll give you that, but still doesn't in my mind explain the mass exodus from Labour in Scotland
      The only answer I can give you would be,

      Dissatisfaction with the Status Quo and looking for a creditable alternative. An alternative which puts Scotland first.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Dubai Tyke View Post
      She has charisma, I'll give you that, but still doesn't in my mind explain the mass exodus from Labour in Scotland
      There has been the same mass exodus of faith in labour throughout the entire UK. The only difference between Scotland and the rest is a viable alternative. In England you make a decision to defect to the lib dems, Tories, ukip, green, independent, none of which really cut it for you, or to stay with labour even though you don't want to. In Scotland you choose to stick with labour or go to the almost identical but not disgraced SNP. When you look at it like that it is easy to see why the change is seen more markedly in Scotland than England but it doesn't mean the people of Scotland are any more disenfranchised from labour than those in England, only that the decision to switch is far easier for them
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      This is a great thread.

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      Mmm understand what you say, I have worked with many ex pat Scots and the one thing that stands out, and for which I greatly admire them for is their passionate nationalism, they have a great pride in where they come from and continue their traditions, this is admirable as its what I believe we all should be. So I can understand their need for a separate identity and their desire for independence. And as a side note they are the most generous of people. My mother was a Stewart, but alas I was not born there. Good luck to the Scots as I have a special love for them. And also the true kings of the Union are the Stuart's, not these usurper Windsors who are German Hanovarians and pretenders. So let them go and be independent, it's only right.

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