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  1. ark

    ark104 (v2) Well-Known Member

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    Gior wi thi.
     
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    Well, given that the grossly exaggerated contribution to the EU (£350m/wk) came in about £23 per person per month, that is something I would certainly be willing to pay.
     
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    Me too - I love the outrage from Brexit hardliners who think its an outrage that because 17Million voted to leave the EU the 16Million who voted to stay and the 9Million dont knows should give up all the rights they currently have as an EU citizen whether they want to or not.

    Presumably I will also have to stop working for European companies as well - after all I am directly helping a German company be successful at the moment. Something I will find much harder to do after brexit - (though this EU citizen idea might help)
     
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    Scoff Well-Known Member

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    I currently work for a French company, with a business unit covering the UK and Scandinavia, on a contract in Ireland, with 3 days in the office most week (Dublin) and 2 days at home. I suppose if they have their way I'll be signing on, but thats ok as they're relaxing the visa requirements for Indians so companies can bring them in to replace all the home-grown IT workers on the cheap...
     
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    On the same token.

    How many did NOT vote conservative.

    Can I be excused some of what policies they put in place. Because more didn't vote for them than who did.
     
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    I often travel to Europe for work and would benefit from it so I would do it ( and it would annoy that **** Farage). Can't see it really happening though.
     
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    I thought this thread may have been a recognition that democracy had worked in both Britain and America. Instead it's the same old whining bilge
     
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    the outrage is because the referendum was held and a majority voted to leave the union,we live in a supposed democracy and those on the losing side should have to accept the outcome.As for the 9 million dont knows,how do you know they were dont knows? how many of them were more in the 'couldnt be arsed to vote camp?,because right up until referendum day there were plenty of those about.

    do you think had the vote gone the other way the 16 million losers and the 9 million dont knows could have had their taxes back because they didnt agree with what was happening in europe.
     
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    you are right there mate,its ridiculous
     
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    With a number as low as 2800, I don't think a 250% increase is significant at all.
     
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    ark104 (v2) Well-Known Member

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    Not sure why it would bother anyone if after Brexit it was offered to individuals and some people chose to take it up. Why does it matter to those that wanted Brexit?
     
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    If you don't like a policy then you can vote against the government in the next election. You can even stand for election if you feel strongly enough on an issue. There is nothing that a government in the UK can do within this country that is not changeable or reversible.

    When we leave the EU, 16+million registered voters are going to lose rights that they *didn't want to lose* in a way that is completely irreversible. Without emigrating, the only option is to form a political party (or join a major party with it on the manifesto), stand for and win a general election with a large majority in the next 4 months (and the next election is scheduled for 3.5 years time). After that, the only way back in would cost us a lot more than it costs us now - both in financial terms (loss of rebate), politically and in terms of national identity (losing the pound).
     
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    as a brexit voter i see it as europe simply trying their best to cause more political unrest because our referendum wasnt to their liking.Hence why i personally see it as wrong.
     
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    Or maybe it's Europeans trying to help UK workers when our own government won't. Not sure why it would impact anyone who chose not to do it. Like I said I might do it if it kept me in employment or made that employment easier. Why not?
     
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    But it doesn't affect you. It has no personal impact at all. You're getting what you want, Britain to not be part of the EU, so why would it bother you if someone's personal choice was to identify as a British and European citizen?
     
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    And if a government want to offer the nation a referendum or rejoin vote that's up to them. The public will decide at that point. Makes no difference the cost. It's politics.

    As it stands the political system we have in place opts for first past the post.

    We were asked one question. It was answered. Using more or less the same system.

    At no point in any of our political history has non votes ever counted. So that's a mute point.

    The point being the vote was counted and result declared.

    Sorry to sound awkward. It's tough isn't it.

    If it was more planned an honest then the country may have got a different result.

    The government and political classes got exactly what they deserved in my eyes and now need to earn the money they are paid
     
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    if that was the reason jimmy then i wouldnt be against it to be honest,if it keeps folk in a job,then why not.
     
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    ark,ffs,plenty of people have opinions about things that dont affect them or indeed have any impact on them,christ if we go down that route then we as well stop being a democracy full stop.
     

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