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This is the story of the collapse of the centre-left, that's happening across Europe too, and it's inability to find its voice and place in response to the 2008 financial crisis and inability to convince people it can do anything to create a fairer society. This is why Bernie Sanders should have been the Democratic candidate, and its why Labour need to be bold, progressive and form non-partisan alliances. Because if the progressive left, who do have the real alternatives to everyday people's problems, don't get their act together it is the message of fear and division of the far right that'll keep gaining traction.

 

Because we've manufactured (In the West) a system where Goldmann Sachs et al really hold the power in association with the truly Global businesses.

I see Trump wants to take apart the TTIP - which also any truly left wing individual would want to (maybe for different reasons tbf) - yet centre left politicians support it in the main, including those friendly wholesome EU officials. Why ? Because of lobbyists and kickbacks/promises of future opportunities for failed politicians in those companies in my simplistic opinion.

There is no way out of this without massive upheaval, and it's a question of who is politically prepared to take the risks associated with that, and manage the process.

 

Let's see if he really does, because what Trump says and what Trump does are quite different things.

 

"non-partisan alliances"? Who with? The Lib Dems?! They still believe in not interfering with the market, which is fundamentally the issue.

 

Well, as a minimum the Greens. In fact they should make Caroline Lucas Labour leader. But certainly SNP and Plaid. I appreciate the Lib Dems is more challenging but I'm really disappointed that Labour are standing a candidate against Zac Goldsmith. So short sighted.

 

The Labour Party should do nothing to support the Lib Dems. The SNP are false left wingers too. But I do tend to look at everything from an economic view point rather than a social one. I think there has been a general move towards wanting to work with parties that may well support social liberalism but have no interest in Socialism or even markey Socialism and the Entrepreneurial State. Its a move I fully disagree with. In many ways, this merging has allowed the economic right to steal left wing clothes...

 

Address why the right of centre is gaining support and you nullify its threat.
Not really rocket science is it.

 

Trouble is there's no route to power without the SNP in the short term and if they aren't as left wing as they say the only was to expose that is by setting a radical agenda to work with you on.

I just get tired of progressive parties arguing over the minutiae whilst the right gets off scott free. None of the parties I mentioned would have worked with the Blairites but I'm certain they would work with Corbyn. The red lines are there for Corbyn to set.

But I can't see the point in handing Goldsmith the byelection. Particularly given his appeal to racism in the mayoral election. The one thing the left can never give in to or appeal to is racism.

 

I think this one is quite interesting too

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ark,the left(as you see it) will never get elected in this country,there simply isnt enough appetite for it.The only paper that comes close to supporting it(the guardian) has a pi ss poor circulation (knitting weekly probably sells more lol) so the message simply doesnt get out there.
the entire workforce of this country is fragmented into much smaller groups than it ever was (this was part of the master plan when the large industries were butchered),therefore everyone is out for themselves,much of the population doesnt even know who their neighbour is,they all work for different,smaller companies,nope,i'm sorry mate,it will never happen.
corbyn is seen as a nutter,some people are saying trump got elected so why not corbyn..well ,immigration for starters,rightly or wrongly this was a key issue in the rise of right wing politics,corbyn's stance is more of the same thats been going on for the last twenty years,so i very much doubt he will win back the votes already lost ..
these are not my views mate,its just the situation as i see it.i feel we are stuck with right wing politics for decades to come unfortunately.

 

much of the problem was that Clinton was more unpopular than Trump on a personal level, they say that the only democrat who wouldn't be able to beat Trump was Clinton. A similarity is in the UK, practically the only person who can't win an election is the present Labour leader. fact

but to be honest Trump may have portrayed himself to be a bigot, a racist, a woman lover (not hater), but much of this was I believe his plan to win the election which surprisingly succeeded so he is either lucky or a genius. I hope that now he won he will show more responsibility. Clinton was weak but he also spoke to the disenfranchised American in the so called rust belt of the swing states of Ohio and Pennsylvania. Clinton couldn't do that.

He focused on illegal immigration, jobs and national protectionism; much the same as the issues that led to Brexit.

I for one thought he would win in the final days of the run up to the election and was no real surprise also considering that polls can't be trusted anymore.

In my experience the fear of change is never so bad as the reality.

 

The only people who think Corbyn can't win an election are the people who either read about him or listen to the news. Anyone who actually goes out to listen to him would beg to differ. The man is class & the party, at some point will get their game in order & fight the real enemy.

 

So, most people then.