The Guardian article about us

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  1. Cha

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    Many other clubs to go at, but the Gruniad selects Barnsley.
     
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    Oh well. Water under the bridge.
     
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    It could be worse, we could be Crewe.
     
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    It's fair enough though isn't it?
     
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    Apart from the fact that Maurice Watkins wasn't at the club when this physio was hired. That doesn't clear the club, clearly we ****** up, but Watkins is implicated in it yet he didn't join us until 2 years later. They actually state when he joined in the article, but by bringing Watkins in to it the implication is he's at fault.

    And don't get me started on that ******* photograph they've used.

    And I usually like The Guardian.
     
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    I meant the lack of safeguarding and checks not the detail. We can't really argue about it. As you say seems to have been written to diss the Man U angle when Watkins wasn't involved but the point itself seems well made.
     
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    If the club had done a DBS check prior to offering him the job, the check would have been negative as he'd not been convicted at that point. This is the key weakness with them - only of value after someone is caught, which is fine to prevent them ever getting involved again, but by then (in the abuse cases) the damage is done. In my job I have to be registered with the HCPC, and also notify them of any convictions, proceedings, drink/drugs charges etc. Not clear if Farmery did this, although if he did, it wouldn't necessarily cost him his registration or employment.

    I think this is all around sloppy management at the club at the time.
     
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    To be fair they were under pressure to find yet another manager and new set of players every 9-12 months.
     
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    You would think that these days there would be a system where an employer (in certain jobs) could register their employee in some kind of crb related system and when there is ANY update to that person's record they are automatically informed
     
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    You would think that these days there would be a system where an employer (in certain jobs) could register their employee in some kind of crb related system and when there is ANY update to that person's record they are automatically informed
     
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    Sadly it's why I don't like or trust any form of media. Always written with an agenda, an opinion or bias.

    Barnsley employed someone and didn't do correct checks - that is very bad. And hope it doesn't happen again.

    Cost cutting - probably did happen as we were trying to balance books back then and ensure as little impact on employed staff if we were relegated. However not applying for a check is not cost cutting ffs. It is just a **** up in process. One I hope we ensure never happens again.

    The journalist in this article is a very poor reflection on the profession. He's used the word of a "former" employee. Who has absolutely no axe to grind against the club. Oh no... None at all.
     
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    Take this with a pinch of salt, you've got to take in to account that The Guardian are on a witch hunt since they couldn't make any of their accusations against PC and the Isoft affair count, irrespective of what the courts ruled.
     
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    The photo cracks me up, it's as if they sent someone out with the brief to take a photo of oakwell with as much ***** in the foreground as possible
     
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    I didn't read it as that. The letter they have is from Maurice's firm with seemingly Maurice signing it as Chairman. I didn't read at all that it was Maurice's fault but more that he was the spokesperson & because he's a name they've given his background.

    Hopefully this type of stuff can't happen again but you do get the sense that 2010 onwards were difficult years in the background for us. The real worry was the fella quoted as saying that there were still possibilities of it up to last year but that could be b.llocks.

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    Should we take with a pinch of salt the fact that we ****** up and aren't denying it?
     
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    I opened the link, saw the photo and closed the page. No need whatsoever.
     
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    Disgraceful behaviour from the club. They should have the book thrown at them for putting people at risk. The shitty photo doesn't undermine the seriousness of what they didn't do.

    If you're running an academy and it's costing you a million quid a year, you shouldn't be skimping on a dbs check. Pathetic.
     
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    It wouldn't surprise me at all if they emptied the rubbish out of a bag, then took the picture...surely they could have done what they usually do and show a picture of the wall outside the West Stand? That usually fits their agenda of trying to make the whole ground look as though it's a dump.
     
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    The photo is crap, no doubt, but that shouldn't be a distraction here. Well, unless you decide to use it as one.
     

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