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  1. jedi one

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    for those that know and or those that think they do: 1st off I do have a current upto date colour tv license. I use an android box for streaming and watching various progs that are on cable/sky but notice all the adverts on sky sports are irish and the price for things is in euros, and sometimes the screen is blank saying service will be resumed very shortly but the question is , do I need a tv licence as my telly is just being used as a monitor ?
     
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    it's pretty straightforward actually. if you watch live content, you need a license. if you don't, you don't. in practical terms, you could only legitimately not have a licence if you only watched catch up tv.
     
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    Even if it's only foreign live content you watched?
     
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    Isn't this question a bit like asking if you're supposed to pay vat on items you steal?
     
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    Ah no. I'm assuming UK content. Dunno about foreign content..
     
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    i'm sat watching ars v ull at the moment but the adds at the beginning were all irish so i'd assume that its eire is that classed as foreign ( I know for the pedants and resident dicksplash that it has a sperate parliament 1-0 ars)
     
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    I maybe wrong but I thought the rule was that if you had equipment (i.e. a TV) that was capable of being used to watch live terrestrial telly from an aerial then you have to have a license. Its not good enough to say you don't watch it, the point is, you could. In practical terms, if you own a telly, you need a license.
     
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    Is watching BBC iplayer stealing?
     
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    I love how, before a prog stats now on IPlayer, it asks if you have a license. I wonder if anyone has ever said no.
     
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    Google "do i need tv licence if i watch foreign channels"

    [Other search engines are available]

    http://www.tvlicensing.co.uk/faqs/FAQ16

    Do I need a TV Licence if I watch programmes broadcast from outside the UK or Channel Islands?

    Yes you do. You need a TV Licence to watch or record live TV, no matter where it is broadcast or distributed from. This includes satellite or online streamed programmes from outside the UK or Channel Islands, such as sporting events and foreign shows.
    Live TV means any programme you watch or record at the same time as it’s being shown on TV or live on an online TV service. See what counts as 'Live TV'.
     
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    so according to that if I watch a repeat of a 1968 steptoe and son its classed as "live tv"........................ making sure they keep their hand in your pocket then
     
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    Communications Act 2003

    363Licence required for use of TV receiver


    (1)A television receiver must not be installed or used unless the installation and use of the receiver is authorised by a licence under this Part.

    (2)A person who installs or uses a television receiver in contravention of subsection (1) is guilty of an offence.

    (3)A person with a television receiver in his possession or under his control who—

    (a)intends to install or use it in contravention of subsection (1), or

    (b)knows, or has reasonable grounds for believing, that another person intends to install or use it in contravention of that subsection,

    is guilty of an offence.

    (4)A person guilty of an offence under this section shall be liable, on summary conviction, to a fine not exceeding level 3 on the standard scale.

    368Meanings of “television receiver” and “use”

    (1)In this Part “television receiver” means any apparatus of a description specified in regulations made by the Secretary of State setting out the descriptions of apparatus that are to be television receivers for the purposes of this Part.

    The Communications (Television Licensing) Regulations 2004

    Meaning of “television receiver”

    9.—(1) In Part 4 of the Act (licensing of TV reception), “television receiver” means any apparatus installed or used for the purpose of receiving (whether by means of wireless telegraphy or otherwise) any television programme service, whether or not it is installed or used for any other purpose.

    (2) In this regulation, any reference to receiving a television programme service includes a reference to receiving by any means any programme included in that service, where that programme is received at the same time (or virtually the same time) as it is received by members of the public by virtue of its being broadcast or distributed as part of that service.
     
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    I don't think that cable/sky and specifically sky sports are on BBC iPlayer
     
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    It didn't until recently. You only needed a TV licence if you watched TV live as it was being broadcast. By spinning it as "The iPlayer Loophole" the BBC have managed to convince the public and politicians that watching programmes on iPlayer without a licence is somehow sneaky, when really it was no different to watching an old Dad's Army DVD. A cynic might say the BBC did so deliberately, to ensure that anybody with the internet potentially has to pay the licence fee.
     
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    Have not got one not had one for years I don't watch live TV I tell them when there come knocking. I watch TV through zgemma box so not lying its a good 40 secs behind normal sky
     
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    When we moved to Australia I was eager to buy a TV as the 2006 world cup was just about to start.

    They couldn't believe it in the shop when I asked them if you needed a license. They thought it was hilarious that you needed to buy license to watch TV in the UK.

    ABC, their BBC equivalent, has a few adverts to partly fund it, the rest coming from taxation.
     
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    If you watch any BBC content you need a license. If you like having a world class news and TV channel free of political bias you should be happy to pay it.
     
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    I'd love a world class news and TV channel free from political bias. Sadly I am yet to find one. You will never find one because regardless of intent the political bias of the decision makers will always creep in. It's nature.

    Does itv have any more political bias than the BBC? Channel 4? Channel 5?
     
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    BBC have been far from being free from political bias when it comes to Trump or Brexit. Just like Sky and Channel 4, they're reporting with their own agendas.
     
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    Spot on. It should be an optional subscription service.
     

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