Reasons not to vote for Ed Miliband

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  1. arabian_ian

    arabian_ian Well-Known Member

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    Re: why would you vote for a Nick Park character

    Politics TBH is all about opinions. And my opinion is that personally I'll feel much happier being governed by a Labour Government being shown the way by the SNP.

    The UK is a thing of the past. It is only a matter of time before a complete break up of this outdated and now unworkable Union.

    Your glorious leader only yesterday produced an English manifesto. The first time ever this has happened. This is the start of the break up.
     
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    Re: why would you vote for a Nick Park character

    A break up wouldn't bother me at all. Being run by someone who hates this country and openly states that they want nothing to do with it would.

    The SNP wanting seperation from the UK isn't an opinion, its a recorded fact.
     
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    arabian_ian Well-Known Member

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    Re: why would you vote for a Nick Park character

    HaHa Exactly.

    We in Scotland are run by people in England who openly hate us. I give you Cameron, IDS, Osbourne and the rest of the Tory maggots.

    Little wonder support for Independence grows here every day. The SNP has always stood for a free Scotland. A country which stands up for its self and governs its self proudly.
     
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    exactly
     
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    Re: why would you vote for a Nick Park character

    I and most of Scotland WILL be voting SNP in this election. Yes, Independence from this broken and corrupt UK is the ultimate aim but until we can achieve this then Nicola will fight the cause for the benefit of Scotland in Westminster.[/QUOTE]

    could have sworn you had a chance to do that recently but dint? might be wrong like :D
     
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    Salmond? Not in a million years.
     
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    Re: why would you vote for a Nick Park character

    I don't know enough about the snp and their policies to pass comment on how damaging their input to government would be for those in England. Pretty damaging I would guess. They care about one group only. The Scots. There is no concern for the poor, unemployed or ill within the rest of the uk.

    It seems a shame we still, in 2015, talk about hatred within the uk. I see a lot more anti English rhetoric from North than I do the opposite.

    Sadly it seems the uk will break up, and Scotland will go the way of the ROI. So be it. Good luck.
     
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    Re: why would you vote for a Nick Park character

    could have sworn you had a chance to do that recently but dint? might be wrong like :D[/QUOTE]

    Yeah very true NYR. Too many people bought into the threats and lies of the "NO" campaign. Now realising the errors of their ways.
     
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    Re: why would you vote for a Nick Park character

    Good post mate. Not sure about the SNP involvement in Westminster being damaging to the English. I agree making Scotland's voice heard for sure but no way damaging to England. Think you have to look closer to home to see where the damage will come from.
     
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    No, I agree it won't be a million years but instead in about two weeks time, the real PM if Labour get a small lead in the numbers game will be Salmond and that very strange Scottish woman. This is the sorry reality and the only way Miliband can get into number 10. It's a numbers game and SNP are the king makers. Game of thrones....
     
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    Arabian Ian understands this
     
  12. arabian_ian

    arabian_ian Well-Known Member

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    I don't see the problem.
     
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    arabian_ian Well-Known Member

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    You have to ask yourselves here. Why has the Scottish electorate virtually to a man turned their back on the Labour party in Scotland. Looking like an SNP whitewash of seats.

    Scotland not long ago the bed rock of the Labour party. Now Scotland looking like only retaining 3 or 4 seats for Labour.

    The people of Scotland have spoken and only now are some listening.

    Maybe too late.
     
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    I don't quite understand why they turned against Labour in such numbers, is it the leader, or nationalism, or a mixture or something else? What's your call on this Ian?
     
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    Its obvious isn't it? For the same reason that English and welsh labour voters have turned their back on labour. It isn't a Scottish thing, its a human thing
     
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    Not as simple as that I'm sure SuperTyke, agreed after 5 years of Tory rule who frankly inherited a bad hand of cards due to a combination of overspending and a world collapse in the financial markets, you would think that Labour should normally have a ten point lead in the polls, but it isn't that way. People are more astute than to just say we turn our back on Labour because it's a human thing that we don't like them. There are reasons why Labour are not doing as well as they should. IMO it's partly due to the inept leadership of the two Eds, and they say two heads are better than one? Not in this case tho. Interested to here what Ian thinks.
     
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    Or the SNP coming to the fore in Scotland and UKIP eating into Labour votes. UKIP, like the SDP before them will split votes short term and disappear into the ether.
     
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    I think that UKIP are more a threat to the Tories and particular the Lib Dems, can't see them affecting the Labour vote much.
     
  19. arabian_ian

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    Nationalism most certainly will have a lot to do with it mate. When Labour in Scotland jumped into bed with the Tories during the Independence election that definitely turned lots against them. The promises which Labour gave us along with the Tories which now turned out to be a pack of lies. Well people do not forget.

    Reading on here Nicola does not seem to be a very popular person by some but she has won over the hearts of almost all here in Scotland. People deserting other parties to vote SNP because she has shown warmth and honesty to the electorate which is something sadly missed by most other leaders.

    Only time will tell whether Nicola and the SNP will be a good or bad thing but one thing is for certain is that we really do need a change and I think she will bring it.
     
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    Time will tell.
     

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