Reasons not to vote for Ed Miliband

Jimmy I read and respect your comments mate. I'm no expert on things political. I voted on what I listened to and in what I believe would be best for me and my family. Much like everyone else.
And like most of you on this board I am deeply disappointed and very disappointed in the English lack of support for a left wing Government being installed.

Anyway I have just copied and pasted this piece and if it means more power to Scotland then I look forward to the next 5 years.

David Cameron needs to enjoy his new found power to run Britain for another five years pretty quick, but if he looks somewhat less than excited, there is good reason....

The SNP have only 56 seats, not even 10% of the available Westminster furniture, but they become the third largest party in the corrupt and crumbling Houses of Parliament.

Which means they are entitled to millions of pounds of funding (Short money), places on select committees like Defence and Treasury.

And two questions at PMQ every week.

And here is the problem for wee Dave.

He has insulted, denigrated and insulted Mr Salmond from the safety of Westminster even before Alex had won the seat.

Cameron could be made to look weak and impotent by Alex very quickly, undermining his credibility in English voters eyes.

There is only one solution to avoid this.

Immediate federalism, everything in the Smith Commission or independence.

The choice is not David's to make, but make it he must.

Or it's game over.

 

Ian, I genuinely hope you are right just as I hoped it would be a yes vote for independence as I would have been over the border like a shot. I just doubt it having spent the last couple of months in and around the political arena I'm glad to be out of it again though I enjoyed working with the Greens and thought they ran a decent campaign and both they and UKIP have highlighted the antiquated nature of an electoral system that gives the millions who voted for smaller parties little or no voice.

The referendum on Europe will be the only referendum run this parliament unless something radically changes.

I don't quite share your liking of Salmond who is as much a professional politician as the rest though I am very impressed by Nicola.

There is a third option which will be to ignore you lot and ram home the message when anyone asks that you had your chance.

 

Remember Ian "we are all in this together"

 

Yes we did have our chance and just like all those English voters throughout the country who swallowed the Tory lies we also had many who bought the lies.

Not saying all in Scotland have changed their minds over Independence because I personally know many who do not want it. But the huge surge towards the SNP is certainly showing that most people are sick of what is happening in the UK and desperately want change. Nicola has picked up on that and has played a fantastic roll in embracing everyone. Yes and No voters alike. For once we seem to have unity in Scotland.

Now how it will play out in Westminster remains to be seen. But any underhand tactics by the Government would surely enrage the Scottish and enhance a new determination to have another go at Independence.

I have heard that it could be include in a draft manifesto by the Scottish Government as early as 2016.

Interesting times ahead.

 

HaHa Superb mate. LOL

 

Gave my mate the line about Scottish people only voting in the interests of their family and friends last night. He said it reminded him of what the Notts miners said when they went back to work in the strike.

 

See where you are coming from mate. But to me your mate sounds a bit bitter over Scots voting for a Scottish party and maybe totally ignoring the fact that the English turned their back on Labour.

TBH maybe a bit of an unfair comparison.

I am old enough to remember the Miner's Strike although only followed it on News at 10 so TBH it was just something which was happening but it did not have a great impact on my life.
Sad to say this now but what with being employed at the time I did not give what was happening at great deal of thought. Only now do I realise the full impact of it all and what a cruel and selfish shower the Tories are.

What you Yorkshire miners endured was unbelievable and I doff my hat to each and everyone of you. At the time I was 25 and with a baby daughter and now when I think of it, god know how I would have coped under such circumstances.
When I come down to visit for a game and have a pint with Marlon. Listening to his stories of the time only brings home to me just how much and cruelly you were treated. Every one in the country should give all those miners the greatest of respect going for standing up to those Tory basterds.

 

So for the second time in a year it would seem that you look lovingly at a winning post, and then in true Scottish fashion manage to pluck defeat from the jaws of victory.

And then come up with "Tory lies".

Yeah, we're all dumb down here in England. We swallow lies. We are as dumb as the 56% who voted for a united kingdom in Scotland the other day.

That involved more Tory lies. With Labour and Lib Dem lies chucked in too.

Were it not for golf, whisky, shortbread and Ronnie Glavin, I'd say you lot were more trouble than you're worth.

 

Oooo Get you. You dinna sound very happy pal. Got a feeling you might be feeling a bit worse soon.

Oh and BTW the no vote was 55% so maybe YOU are a bit dumb. LOL

 

What's 1% among unionists?

I am indeed dumb for not remembering to the finite exact percentage. I appreciate that these things matter to the nationalist.

However, if all goes to plan I'll be feeling a bit better!

I remember you having a feeling that the independence vote would go your way. So forgive me the effect of your most recent runes

I voted btw. But not Tory.

 

Yes I did hope we would win the referendum but we didn't. So the battle goes on.

Hope you don't mind me asking,
what exactly is going to happen if all goes to plan? I am very interested to hear what it is.

 

You more than hoped you'd win. You thought you would. In true Ally McLeod fashion.

Anyway...we've had "plans" stuffed down our throat over the past few weeks. But my plan involves something that you will very much like, even if Ziggy Stardust doesn't.

The plan has you lot being independent. Floating off into your own socialist utopia. It must now happen. Please.

Whether you will end up with a better general standard of living will be up to you. I wish you luck, cos it will now eventually happen.

Typically Scottish

Hopefully not typically wrong.

Why should the English mourn separation? Because romantically we liked a united kingdom. England will probably be better off alone long term.

Time now to say goodbye. Not least because we'll have loads of separatists in Westminster blowing powerless hot air to anyone who'll stick it on our tellies. Till we're weary of it. England has had enough of it all already.

And Caol Ila 12 years will still always be the best drink in the whole world

 

Cheers I'll drink to that.

Oh and don't forget your passport next time you visit.

 

There is no place finer than Islay - indeed anywhere up the west coast - was there again last August.

If the sun shone once or twice then you'd be flooded by the English. Wanting to live there. Like Spain.

So happily suffer your climate

 

Well for once there is something to be thankful for with our bad weather.




That was a joke BTW, before you get on your high horse. So glad you enjoyed your visit to Islay. That is somewhere I have not been.

 

Forums are for exchanging opinions eh?

I know you aren't one of those who takes it personally

Up the Scots! (you can decide where)

 

The English didn't turn their back on Labour. Overall Labour increased their vote by 1.5% and won 20+ extra seats in England (mostly in London). Its just that they lost 40-odd in Scotland and loads of Liberal seats went to the Tories.

 

Sorry to disagree with your figures.

But even if the 56 SNP seats went to Labour the result would have been Tory 331 Labour 298. So TBH it wasn't the Scots to blame was it?

 

Figures are directly from the BBC - http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election/2015/results

I never said that the Scots were to blame, just that the Labour vote actually increased over the previous election. If you look at those figures, a 3.1% increase in SNP votes gained them 50 seats. It wouldn't take that much for them to swing back next time. Again, I'm not saying they will, but the SNP are effectively powerless to stop Tory actions in Scotland - no matter how unpopular.