Time to scrap the Bosman Ruling...

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  1. Row

    Row ii Ponty Active Member

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    If players like Connor are offered new contracts on better terms by there present club, then this shouldn't be treated has if the player is out of contract,
     
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    Are you going to rewrite employment law for the rest of us as well?

    If you change that ruling then by proxy if you are under contract at your own place of work you wouldn't be able to move to a bigger and better job.
     
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    A noble idea but unenforceable I'd imagine. Under 24's obviously have the recompense element built in when they are out of contract but look at Marc Roberts, he's improved at Barnsley immeasurably, he's over 24 and if he was to leave at the end of his contract we should be compensated.
     
  4. Sta

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    Why can't football be just like any other job, where you just hand in your notice and move on? Your employer could offer you more money to try and persuade you to stay, or let you go, but it's totally up to you. Eventually, all footballers would settle to their natural level in the pyramid.

    And agents would be redundant. Hopefully.
     
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    football isn't a normal job tho is it, football clubs put in a considerable amount of time and effort into there employees.. Footballers are assets to the clubs, I could find another job tomorrow and be replaced by the next working day, u cant do that with footballers, plus if I did find another job stagecoach wouldn't ask for a transfer fee for me...

    Anyone in there right mind can see Connor Hourihane or Sam Winnall are big big assets to Barnsley football club and because they are out of contract in july means we have to let them go on a free, something just isn't right about that.. The players have too much control, when does the club take back some control, Agents are ruining the game and there isn't a will to try and even change that situation...
     
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    It's not so much the Bossman ruling but the transfer window that annoys me. In fact I'm surprised it hasn't been challenged as a "restriction of trade".

    All we end up with is mad panic buying on the last day of the window, with Sky Sports getting ridiculously giddy about billions of pounds changing hands.

    Just bonkers.
     
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    Football should probably be more like a temporary job. You sign on for a period of time, and at the end of that period are a free agent to move on again or accept a longer contract. At the end of the season, all free players go into a pot and are available for offers.
     
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    Don't bring me into your argument :-D
     
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    Isn't Bosman EU law? Same with Kolpak in cricket.
     
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    Most business invest huge sums of money and loads of time in training and development for their staff, in the same way that football clubs do, but when they leave there's no compensation and they have to do it all again with the replacement.

    I agree totally with your second paragraph, as the OP said Mr Bosman is to blame for that. It boils my p**s but the only option is to either accept it and carry on, or give up watching football altogether. It's tempting at times.
     
  11. JLWBigLil

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    I agree.
     
  12. Sta

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    Neither do I.
     
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    I'm still fuming at not being able to buy sparkling wine at the local, to say nothing of being unable to sprinkle sl.uts outside our front door when it's icy.
     
  14. Sta

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    Well I've heard there's already a sprinkling of those around Dodeth. If you know where to look...
     
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    I don't.
     
  16. Sta

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    So do I.
     
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    I didn't even know about that 'House Of Ill Repute' on Mitchelson Avenue, until it was reported on the front page of the Chronicle after it had been raided, then closed, by police.
     
  18. Sta

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    I didn't know about that until I read your post just now! A perfect example of my innocence.
     
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    Football Union. Its the future!!
     

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