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    Steve Wood Well-Known Member

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    I think Wigan and Luton will be in the bottom 3. We need to get above another team as well. Boro? Stoke? Huddersfield? I think they'll pick up too many points...
     
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    Dub-Tyke Well-Known Member

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    The facility taken out is likely to cover the transfer in/out capital interim period. Everything is staggered payments in transfers. It’s facility is likely secured against the incoming money.

    At least this is transparent to all and not personal Director loans etc.

    I don’t see an issue with it. Common business practice.
     
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    Not sure with Stoke. Think they've got rot amongst the players from reading their forum. New manager bounce plus a gift of a first goal and their experience showed. Whether they are prepared to put the work in over the season remains to be seen as they haven't so far.
     
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    Dub-Tyke Well-Known Member

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    Aren’t Charlton dropping off a bit? And Hudds looked poor yesterday.
     
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    I just don't see Barnsley getting many 3 point wins. Then the others only need to win a few and it makes a massive difference. Draws and defeats will keep us anchored to the foot of the table.
     
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    Middlesbrough not won for 2 months either, only thing in their favour is Woodgate will get replaced.
     
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    The others can drop off but we still need to perform as we're bottom of the table. If we were 4th bottom then them dropping off could benefit us. Somehow or other we need a run of wins to get us going.
     
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    Glaring errors that cost 2 or 3 goals every game for ages now, so a run of wins seems extremely unlikely.
     
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    Yes, that puts it succinctly. Club takes all risk now, under PC he had 'skin in the game'. My only hope is that, as a business, the consortium is keen to maximise its return on investment (whatever that's truly been) because it'll only do that with success on the field. Otherwise, there is an unacceptable opportunity cost to keeping money in BFC when it could be taken out and invested elsewhere for better returns. I still don't know how much the consortium has to lose here - reputational loss, yes (does it care about that?) but how much, financially, no idea.
     
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    So you prefer owners with no financial input? The transparency you refer to is all in the club accounts.

    What do you think that private equity owners see in Barnsley Football club?
     
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    I wouldn't build you're hopes up....
    I'd say it's very unlikely that we will spend what's required to make us more competitive especially with relegation looming.The only realistic option would be a few quality loans, but that's not going to happen.
    We will probably sell Woodrow for an undisclosed fee and then sign 3 more 19 yr old attacking midfielders.
     
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    I see some fans are hyping up for next match making excuses for the board and the way we are playing
    Get real, we will be blown away every week until some experience is fetched in
    This young team are in the wrong league and have not got time on their side to correct it.
    They will learn something but not enough
    A shame because the fans deserve more the way the support them home and away
     
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    They said from day one, they want it to be self-funding and break even where possible like you would with any business. This secures the long term of the football club going forward.

    The long term plan probably is to get to the position where transfer fees will be bigger so the business owners can then start to see the value go up of their investment, or take dividends.

    Similar to Brentford I suppose - Maupay and Konsa went for £30m between them. The sell big and that allows them to buy bigger. That’s the next stage. It took Brentford 5 years at Championship level to get where they are now. That’s the plan I reckon we’re following.
     
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    Except we won't get 5 years in the championship with the way we dismantle the team.
     
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    Total input from the Brentford owner £100m. Not the best example to support your theory.
     
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    Sorry, I meant consolidate, and build up from their.

    Regardless of the funding situation, that’s what we need to aim for. If we get there, then Chien Lee etc might put money in when they can getter better fees from the sell on. You never know.
     
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    if ever there was a point in the club's evolution under the new owners, this summer was the time to invest. The actions smack of owners obsessed with turning profit on player sales with on field success a secondary consideration.
     
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    No change though really. Ever since administration.

    Look at McPhail, Chopra, Howard, Bogdanovic, Jason Shackell etc.....
     
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    But the charge is from £13m invested by the owner who had Barnsley in his heart we have a consortium of private equity investors who have stated they will not use their own capital and have no connection with the club or the area.

    The biggest question is why Barnsley? It wasn't an expensive entry point and maybe they thought the fans of a club like Barnsley would put up with a player trading strategy.

    It may have been bad before but I think things will be a lot worse going forward. Only my opinion and I sincerely hope I'm wrong but Its hard to be positive at the moment.
     
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    Time will tell.

    Although like my mate said yesterday. If we have a League 1 run like we did last year, every other season, maybe it’s not too bad. We wouldn’t have that run in the Champ for a few years.
     
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