Discussion in 'Bulletin Board' started by BarnsleyReds, Dec 29, 2020.
All Lives Matter.
Except those over 80.
Of course they are, that's not what I was suggesting.
I'm sorry - I know this is an emotive subject, but that kind of language is unacceptable.
When I see his smarmy mug on the telly, I actually think back to Thatcher with something approaching fondness.
David Upper East is a disgraceful human. Look at his posting history.
You do realise that's only positive tests in one day right? 0.1% of the population testing positive every day (with the rate increasing) is much more supportive of his position than yours.
There are a number of well documented cases of reinfection resulting in typical symptoms. Not many, but enough to worry the experts. I think that this means that the entire population will have to be vaccinated whether they've had the disease or not.
No he’s right, you should censor yourself next time. T*ry lets you say what you mean just as well without tainting people screens.
It'll probably be spun as an illustration of the breadth of our world beating testing efforts or summat...
Anyone would think that hospitality was never to blame, that all we are doing is knackering our economy when it’s making no difference
Would the people who are at risk of re infection not be just as likely to still be at risk after a vaccine? Genuinely confused on the subject so happy to be put right.
Why the fck do we bother describing Shipman as a mass murderer, he only killed old people and those with co-morbidities. He did absolutely nothing wrong according to Dave the apologist.
Someone will be around soon to tell you how if they hadn't shut hospitality we would be even worse off now. Isn't it amazing how low flu cases have been this winter compared to normal.
Lockdowns do not work. At best they stunt viral spread for a short period of time then boom up it goes again.
Just look at Wales. The firebreak was stricter than anything seen in England.
Pre 'firebreak' they were as a country at 236/100k
Left lockdown after a month at 206/100k
Dropped to 170/100k and its now at somewhere in the region of 400/100k.
And during lockdown cases actually increased!
Leicester has been in lockdown since June. Its still in excess of 300/100k
Scotland with their harder faster lockdown policy as of Christmas day still had cases increasing in all the populated areas.
Heven forbid you look at Peru.
They are testing an average of 400k tests a day. The results over the last few days include Christmas backlogs. At a guess without looking the 90k of positive tests announced today have a specimen date of before Christmas.
The only key metric is 'will the NHS be overwhelmed' as of yet it isnt. Its not in some trusts (even in those with high infection rates) as busy as previous years.
The data especially since most of it is updated daily now needs to be scrutinised further.
People who test positve.
How many with symptoms
How old are they
Where are they being tested. Are they perfectly fine until they visit hospital and catching it there. Upto 40% of cases, trust dependent are linked hospitals.
Do they live in or have indepentent care. Care homes have always been known for
Where do they work
From there even a half baked data analyst can build a forecasting model that works.
They also need to start dispelling the myth that Covid is everywhere. It given we now stand at over 50m completed tests and less than 3m positve cases it certainly isnt.
Once New Year is out of the way and everyone who has put off seeing the Dr etc to avoid spoiling Christmas. Like they do most years has seen the quack itll start dropping.
As it stands the current government policy is based around fear and urgency. This leads to stupid drastic decisions without any attention paid directly to side effects.
Which all the constant lockdowns and the bizarre clauses lead to. And the latest arse dropping panic because a virus has mutated
You know why a virus mutates... to stay alive. Its no good being **** of the walk when youve killed off all your hosts.
Short of welding everyone into their homes and having the army deliver food parcels for a month wearing NBC suits then at some point until those who wish to be vaccinated have been we need to learn to live with it.
Otherwise there will be nothing left come summer.
A closed business gets 2k a week. Thats to cover rent. Rates. Insurance. Employers contributions to wages and pensions. The cost of destroyed or wasted stock. Utilities.
When your rent is a grand a week. Where does the shortfall come from?
I like a pint so ill use the white bear as an example. On a match day theyll clear over 15k.
An average saturday half that.
Old george. Two lads there have invested everything. They are running at 40-50% average turnover.
Blackburns. Theyve chalked **** on it. Not enough internet orders.
Greggs are laying staff off.
Barnsley council have spent close to 50m since March.
And just remember. Its bang in the middle of respitory virus season.
Of course flu is going to be lower than previous years due to any level of masks and social distancing, as we have never done those things in previous years. At the same time, if there is less social distancing and mask wearing than there was a few months ago then of course covid cases will be increasing. He's drawing a false equivalence between 2 things that aren't at all analogous.
The bloke couldn't half take a penalty, but his reasoning skills are even worse than yours.
It's also for the sake of the children and their education/well being.
Also it's the first time over 50a have been offered a flu jab so that's got to help bring the spread down too..
Why is it amazing?
Sorry, it wasn't clear what you were suggesting...
Context is king. How bad are things now in hospitals by comparison to any other winter. By all means media can tell us the Covid numbers in relation to April. But given the huge increase in testing I would also like to know if the situation is going to overwhelm hospital's in a way we don't normally see.
Then if it is bad enough to justify a lockdown are we going to do it properly or just shut shops and schools?
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