Boxing (contains spoiler)

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  1. icer

    icer Well-Known Member

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    I'm a big boxing fan and its great that that we have so many world champs.

    However last night was an embarrassment. Firstly David Haye's come back fight against a club fighter. The gulf in class makes you wonder how this fight was sanctioned for a headline arena crowd. I get it if it was an undercard and part of build up to his comeback but it was just hype and no substance.

    Then we see the perfect gentleman Wilder knock Szpilka clean out after 9 hard rounds. Szpilka stretchered to hospital and respect to the whole situation. Then low and behold coco the clown turns up. I rooted for Fury to beat Klitchko but he certainly knows how to show the minimum of respect and acts like a silly kid who won't grow up. I cringed and felt the embarrassment. "It ain't the WWE Baby" summed it up perfectly from Wilder. Not sure this will endear the yanks to a big PPV or Wilder to line him up next.
     
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    Agree about Haye to a certain extent- i'd only just sat down before he put him on the canvas. However- isn't he WBA top 10 or something like that?

    Suppose it says more about the division after you get below the big boys more than owt else.
     
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    I agree, but he is 33 and was previously ranked in WBC. However the point i was trying to make isn't that he shouldn't have fought him, but more so that it wasn't really an arena headliner. Great for their bank accounts but not really good for the sport or the paying public.
     
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    And there we agree my friend.
     
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    The Fury/Wilder thing was all stage-managed, pre-planned.
     
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    There's a reason the fight was on 'Dave'
     
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    A very cringeworthy stage-managed thing. If i had stage managed it i would have managed it to look less embarrassing. The WWE comment summed it up and Tyson's script was like something off Movies for Men.
     
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    I thought it was ****. Because it was staged.
     
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    Loko the Tyke Administrator Staff Member Admin

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    Bit harsh.

    Three and a half years without throwing a punch in a professional boxing ring. Takes out the #10 ranked guy within one round. There's an American guy called Chris Martin who just won the IBF Title last night, who up until three or four fights ago wasn't ranked in the top ten. As comeback fights go, this wasn't a bad one. Not great, but not bad.

    The sporting public weren't robbbed. They knew exactly what they were getting themselves in for. Nobody jeered, and they all lapped it up. And despite the whole 'sold out crowd' spin from the commentators, they didn't open the top tier so I'd be surprised if 8,000 were there. Proper spectacle though with the DJs and singers on in advance. But a non existent undercard.
     
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    Don't think it was staged.

    A lot of Tyson's interviews sound like he's talking off a script, that's just the way he is. Wilder wasn't expecting him in the ring, and was more bothered about his unconcscious opponent.

    I also think there's a massive chance they both lose their next fights anyway, against Povetkin and Klitschko. Bit too early to be staging pre-fight hype.
     
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    Sill surprises me that people believe all this hate pre fight

    Boxing is exactly like wrestling all an act to gain attention

    Only difference heh actually hit each other

    But how many would pay for boxing if they shook hands and acted all pally pally before the fight




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    For someone who prides himself on being good at 'trash talking' Fury got humiliated by Wilder. I expect the same would happen in the ring.


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    Naew. Disagree. 100% staged IMO and as the BBC points out, it was Wilder who spouted off first after the guy with the microphone ordered Fury into the ring. So aye, staged. But **** regardless.

    Not sure about Wilder against Povetkin, ought to be close. I see Tyson knocking Wlad out next time. We'll see.

    And the fighter who won the IBF was Charles Martin, not Chris. Chris is a **** singer or lump of a striker.


    Oh, and Haye beat an absolute bum. However, he did it easily and showed he still has the power. I'd like to see him against Hughie Fury.
     
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    Check you out diversifying outside of the mainstream of boxing. Who'd have thought it ;)

    Getting in the ring was staged. What happened in it wasn't. Testosterone levels increased as they would putting any heavyweights face to face.
     
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    Not a chance. Fury wins that all day, every day. Wlad is still the best 'other' heavyweight out there, the bloke who Tyson beat with ease, in his own backyard.

    I see Haye and Joshua as better than Wilder.
     
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    I see Haye and Joshua as better than Fury. TBH it says a lot about the division when the Champion wouldnt even be involved in the biggest match up in his own country.


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  17. Whi

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    It was staged. Can't be arsed to keep repeating it.

    The way the OP started made out like Tyson went in randomly in a disrespectful manner etc. Which he didn't, and that's why I posted what I did. That it was staged, pre-planned.

    He's a big wally. He amuses me. But it's his boxing prowess and attitude in the ring that I admire.

    But he's a love/hate figure isn't he? Like marmite. Which sells. And so fingers crossed the Hayemaker 'version 2.0' (his own words) gets to a mandatory position because that would be some fcuking build up and some fcuking fight. And the winner fights AJ who'll be ready by then (couple of years time) to conquer the world and rule it, hopefully.

    I love boxing.
     
  18. Whi

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    If you think a non-title fight between Haye and Joshua would be bigger than either Fury vs AJ or Fury vs Haye (for titles) then you need professional help. But saying that, you're the chap who doesn't rate Hourihane and wants Robins as manager so..... :D
     
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    I dont think, it would undoubtably be. The best two heavyweights in the country at different ends of their careers coming toe to toe. Both can punch ferociously, unlike Fury. The fans want to see action, something Fury doesnt deliver.


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  20. Whi

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    Haha. I've heard it all now.

    I'm done.
     

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