Budget 2017: NHS trusts given extra £350m for entire winter, despite Brexit bus promising £350m a wk

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Budget 2017: NHS trusts given extra £350m for entire winter, despite Brexit bus promising £350m a week
The NHS is getting £1.6bn in extra funding next year, less than half asked for by the NHS to keep the service running

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/h...on-leave-eu-hospitals-staff-a8069481.html?amp

 

OK left/right whingers instead of continually slagging off left/right goverments surely the NHS problem is the ongoing problem of top heavy management .

 

Aging population requiring more medical treatments. Scientific advances increase the costs of the best treatment. Fall in the value of the pound increasing costs of imported medicines and extra charges for treatment of UK citizens in the EU. Maybe there is too much management (and I don't work for the NHs so can't comment on that), but the other factors are very big factors.

The bill for imported medicine alone has risen by ~20% in 18 months just on currency fluctuations.

 

Regardless of the rights and wrongs of Brexit which has been done to death, 2 things to point out.....

1 It did not "promise" anything. It simply said "....Let's fund our NHS instead" Whether or not you consider that to be a promise or even a statement of intent, depends on how good a grasp of English you have. Personally I didn't.
2 The main point though, and to quote pro-EU 'remainers' who say this every time there is some good news on the economy, " We haven't left yet." Therefore we are STILL making payments to the EU so extra money isn't actually available yet anyway.

I appreciate you have strong views but do try to think a bit before you post your anti EU anti Conservative rants. There are plenty of real things to challenge both government and opposition parties on.

Have a good day

 

We have not left the EU yet , therefore brexit promises can only be judged when brexit has been completed , surely

 

Brad Potts wins lots of headers.

 

A talking bus ? wow.

 

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Without adding too much to the debate we have regular interaction with various government officials and also wider stakeholder. Meeting recently with the former head of the EU treasury the person who accounted the EU - UK spend. Without giving away anything or making quotes, she basically said 'We' as in us in the UK, must have been off our heads to vote out of EU given that we had far more coming in (and centrally managed ) from the EU than people realised and the press suggested. In fact we have benefited far more than if we were out. Just her informed and in the know opinion of course.

 

How exactly does a bus promise to give money.

How did she respond when you asked her why this information hadn't been dispassionately and logically presented to the nation rather than the hype up hysterical misinformation that was?

 

For the same reason this 40 billion divorce bill was never mentioned by either side....nobody thought we'd be daft enough to vote leave (including those who campaigned for it...Boris etc).

 

Great little thread here.

 

That's the job of our own Government. She wasn't responsible for the way the UK handles this, whichever party is telling the message. I'm sure some would argue the message has been communicated for those who want to listen and believe. However i guess some people would trust a bus first and foremost.

 

We should start a new thread. What has Brexit Given / Cost you? A good question and one which will be interesting to unfold over time on what it has given or taken from people directly.

 

Chucking more money at the NHS is like feeding a fat lovely person cake.
Keeps em quiet for a while then they demand more.

 

WTH are you on about ... you're always defending the Tories on a Barnsley forum in a Town that is among the most anti Tory in The country.. (??)
If the lib dems Labour ukip bnp or whoever had ran nhs into the ground id mention them .. but as the tories have been wanting to privatise the nhs for years best to mention them .. don't get your comment on brexit .

What the tories are doing to the nhs is cynical at best..

 

A massive pay cut compared to my colleagues outside the country.

UK Average salary 2016: £27,000
EU Exchange rate May 2016: 1.31
Equivalent in Euro: Eur 35,370

UK Average salary 2017: £27,000
EU Exchange rate now: 1.12
Equivalent in Euro: Eur 30,240

So a Eur 5,000 (£4.5k) pay cut compared to my colleagues if I was earning the UK average salary.

Imagine how all the old miners would feel if the result of a public vote lead to their pit suddenly earning significantly less than all the other pits in the area for the same job and the same work.

 

Calm down and read it again. It was not a defence of the Tories. I was merely pointing out that your statement was factually incorrect i.e. no money is yet available since we have not left nor was what was posted on teh side of the bus a promise. Neither have anything to do with me "defending Tories" as you put it.

As I said my reply was not about the politics, Brexit or the NHS just the inaccuracy of your initial post.

Try again.

PS (Strange how certain people used to pillory me for allegedly starting political posts (in fact I used to post a lot on politics but not that often as the OP) and yet the rabid left wing posters such as yourself get off pretty much 'Scot free' (apart from Stahlrost's subtle replies re Potts and football) when Political threads are started.)

 

You didn't reply to the article (or the other articles on this subject) ...

 

It's not really a pay cut though is it....all it means is that you have less to spend if you visit the Eurozone. If the Italian debt crisis that appears to be looming hits the Euro, I doubt you'd say you'd just had a pay rise.