Decent Point

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  1. Jay

    Jay Well-Known Member

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    Cracking goal. But disappointing tactics second half in my opinion. Going 5 at back with 30 minutes to go and simply inviting them on seems way too long to try to hang on. Which we didn't.
     
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    Would have took that return from the two away games. Its back in our hands now.
     
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    I would have taken that before kick off.
     
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    Agree - point away never a bad result. Disappointment because sounds like we were outplaying them in the first half.

    More promising performances from Thiam, McBurnie and Potts big pluses.

    Also lads probably shook up by the Jackson injury.
     
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    Heard a few saying Potts was poor all in all
     
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    I agree.

    We did the same Saturday and let a sh1111te Birmingham side come on to us. I said the same after that game, that against better opposition we'll come unstuck with that tactic.

    We fully matched them first half and were full value for a 1 nil lead. Hull looked poor.

    Let them have too much possession and ended up camped in our own half.

    Having said that, Moore needs to be better at making it stick up top. He was poor in possession and his touch let him down on numerous occasions.
     
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    JM has still got a lot to learn. He's managing Barnsley and we don't defend leads.
     
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    Not great in possession but still a pain in the arse for the opposition. He's our Fellaini.
     
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    we were swamped. we may have shipped 3 without doing this, after Jackson went off the defence looked v shaky
     
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    Would have taken 4 points from two aways, but that second half was hard to watch, and very cold.

    We're not good enough to sit back and hold on to a slender lead.
     
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    Think Jackson stays on and it's a similar game as Saturday - perhaps trying to afford Pearson a bit of extra protection ?
     
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    Last two games we've been quick out of the box to be leading at half time. But both games we've parked the bus negatively in the second half and failed to score. Hope that Jose is picking up on the best way to defend is to attack and not invite pressure. Should have been going more for a second.
     
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    We parked the bus at Birmingham ? Behave
     
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    He doesn't know what he's talking about tbf.
     
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    Barnsley boss José Morais told BBC Radio Leeds:

    "We came for three points. We played a very good first half and were unlucky to lose one of our central defenders. For that reason we did a substitution we didn't want to so early.

    "But we kept good balance. In the first half we created a lot of chances. We had a lot of good situations to score.

    "It was a fantastic goal and a creative situation that gave us the lead in the game and for that reason we really deserved our advantage."
     
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    We did 2nd half.
     
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    Disagree completely. Apart from a couple of lapses they never got a sniff - long range efforts otherwise. We nullified them in midfield. The last thing in the world that performance was is parking the bus
     
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    Possibly. Just think half an hour is too long for a defence to soak up the pressure, which is basically the tactic when you go with a back 5.

    I would have taken a point before the game and I'm not claiming we would have definitely gone on to win had we kept the same formation or brought on a midfield player for Thiam, it's just I've watched Barnsley long enough to have reached the conclusion that when we start bringing on extra defenders we tend to concede. You can defend a lead further up the pitch than your own area. (Similarly, when we bring on extra strikers we very rarely score. Both options tend to disrupt the shape of the team.)

    All ifs and buts, we'll never know what the score would have been had we done something different.
     
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    'park the bus' is now the most overused phrase in football. If a team loses momentum and can't regain intensity during the game that is not parking the bus, it happens at every level from Pub league to Champions league, when you are a **** side who have spent most of the season losing, have an inexperienced side, away from home, on a freezing cold night when you had to stop for 11 minutes to have a player stretchered off then it is multiplied.
     
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    Think losing Jackson was a big deal for us, he seems to calm things down at the back and Lindsay also plays better alongside him.

    I do think Jose got his last two subs and the subsequent tactics wrong tonight but if Thiam can only do an hour and McBurnie 70 minutes then I'd have stuck Yids on the right wing (he played there for Barnet) and have had Hamill or Hedges on the bench to replace McBurnie. Then you can keep the same shape and also revert to a five at the back if you want nearer the end.

    Going defensive so early let Hull off the hook and masked the fact that they aren't all that good at the back.

    Having said all that Hull should have been down to 10 men before they equalised but worst Premiership ref Jones decided that two assaults by McGregor on Moore should only attract one yellow card - unbelievable Jeff.
     

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