DeGale v Dirrell

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  1. Dja

    Django Well-Known Member

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    I'm done debating.

    Paul Smith wouldn't win a round against DeGale or Dirrell.
     
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    Django Well-Known Member

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    Froch wouldn't have hurt Dirrell in the first place.

    The only reason the shot got through is because DeGale's a southpaw with fast reflexes.

    Froch is neither.
     
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    I agree he's definitely been on the downward spiral for a few years now but I havent seen anything in Dirrell or DeGale that tells me they could last 12 gruelling, hard rounds with pressure being on them for tge majority of each round. Both are quicker, younger and more skillful boxers, neither have the heart or desire to last with Froch


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    So you're saying on that showing he's better then King Arthur as well then, tha on drugs if thy are
     
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    Dirrell went 12 rounds with Froch and depending on how you scored the fight, Froch got a home decision on the scorecards!!!!

    Django is right, Froch couldn't catch Dirrell in their fight like Degale did tonight. Styles make fights. Degale would frustrate the hell out of Froch. My only challenge back in Froch's favour is that Degale left himself wide, wide open far too many times with wide shots, and Froch would capitalise on that better than Dirrell did.
     
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    King Arthur? He's ****. He's been finished for the last couple of years. The fact that Stieglitz got a win over him & that he didn't stop Smith in two attempts says it all.

    Dirrell won every second of every round against a prime Abraham & DeGale would do the same.

    I think you're after bites here. Dirrell & DeGale on another level to Abraham & another level still to Smith
     
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    Froch would knock him out if he fought like he did tonight no doubt in my mind, I agree with what you're all saying about Froch been on the way down but he'd have absolutely nothing to worry about on tonight's showing, I think lesser fighters then Froch would have beat him tonight too
     
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    This ^^^^
     
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    Have you been drinking ? Watch that fight in morning sober pal, both where ***** tonight and you'll not get me to think other wise no matter how much you talk about other fighters, if ether of them too turn up like they did tonight wide open swinging wildly, against any seasoned pro they'd be in trouble
     
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    How did Froch get hit so cleanly and so often by Groves? How did Dirrell in their fight six years ago manage to catch him time and time again? Why was the Froch v Kessler fights such slugfests? All because Froch also has a tendency to throw wildly and lunge with his punches, especially in later rounds.

    Some of the combination work from Degale in the early rounds, and Dirrell in the mid to late rounds, was fantastic. Dirrell showed exactly why Froch struggled to beat him, and Degale showed that he belongs at world level.
     
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    Give up
     
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    I should have given up after reading your King Arthur comments to be fair
     
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    Surprised you saw it with the blinkers thy as on
     
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    They're both outstanding boxers, one a gold medalist, one a bronze. Top amateurs who make it incredibly hard for the opponent to land clean. That's why so much missed.

    I didn't see many wild swings tonight, even when either fighter missed they were straight back to feinting / covering up to avoid the opponents counter. Great contest between two highly skilled boxers that turned out a lot better than I hoped it would.

    Do you honestly think they'd have struggled to find the target so much against anyone but each other & Andre Ward? Neither would've needed to over reach against one dimensional plodders like Abraham or Smith
     
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    Ye that's definitely how I see it too. Froch has that punchers chance against anyone and has shown he can finish an opponent off when he hurts them.

    I'd just favour either Dirrell & DeGale both on points against Froch at this stage but it wouldn't be a confident pick.
     
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    Maybe you're right but we'll see in time, for me I couldn't care less if they'd been knocking heavy wights out won gold medals at every weight in last 10 Olympics and needed to build a shed as big as Wembley to keep them in, I wasn't impressed with ether tonight in more then 3 rounds each, maybe it's because they're both quality fighters, but theirs better out there
     
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    Based on tonight's fight ?
     
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    You didnt see any wild swings? I take it you were flicking between the fight of BGT all night then? It was a fight filled with them. There were two wild, wild uppercut swings in quick succession from Dirrell for starters.


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    Dunno about Paul Smith but their Callum is gonna be good
     
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    Based on their whole careers.

    Froch's style couldn't be anymore different to DeGale / Dirrell.
     
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