Dementia Tax.

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  1. Til

    Tilertoes Well-Known Member

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    That's what labour is all about though, claim claim claim and you will be better off. The tories are consistently showing what a set of Cnuts they are, it's on a plate for the opposition but virtually everything they come out with is unrealistic rhubarb.
    No one is speaking for the average working person.
     
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    Vote UKIP! lol
     
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    What don't you like from the manifesto?
     
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    How very conservative of you. I'm not sure how paying for yourself is a penalty, just an obligation really, and I don't see why you should be entitled to pass everything over to your kids. If Corbyn had proposed this but only so it'd apply to people whose homes are worth more than half a million you'd be creaming yourselves.
     
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    tinatyke Well-Known Member

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    Just Tories under the guise of a different party name.

    Want to make NHS, Insurance based, (more profiteering then !)

    That's reason enough not to vote for them, the second reason is their leader, the classless Mr Nuttall
     
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    This^^
     
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    I could be wrong but I don't think there is a WTO tariff on fuel .
     
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    I completely agree on this point; it's so unfair that people who act responsibly with their finances, those who save and who do something so they can pass on something to their kids are penalised but this seems to be the case in most things publicly funded and both colours of government are guilty.

    On the flip side money has to be found from somewhere because the cost of social care and old age is going through the roof and there don't seem to be any easy answers.

    At first glance the proposal put forward in the Tory manifesto seemed like a step in the right direction but for the reasons you set out the detail make it quite an unfair policy especially for those who the government would consider to be their safe seats.
     
    MarioKempes, May 22, 2017
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    You're right, money does have to be found from somewhere. Like raising corporation tax to a level it was only in 2011. Like raising income tax for those with the broadest shoulders.

    Like hitting tax avoidance and tax evasion.

    By hitting the cosy utilities cartels to bring profits into the public sphere.

    For the many, not the few.
     
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    There is more for the 'common man' in the Labour manifesto than anything in my adult life. Of course everything they want to achieve may not be done. That's politics. But they have presented a positive inclusive package of measures that would take the nation in a positive direction. All I have seen from the conservatives is negativity and slagging the country off. I' m not a natural Labour voter. I have only voted for them once before but for once they have provided people with a choice.


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    That must've been a while back, as Cambodia no longer has any working railway lines, as far as I'm aware.
     
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    Jimmy viz Well-Known Member

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    Battambang to Phnom Penh they closed it about 2006 but it opened again last year I believe.


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    Raising corporation tax and closing tax loopholes will only go so far and with the population getting older the issue of finding money to fund their needs is going to be something that needs addressing.

    The top earners already contribute a significant proportion of the tax in this country. I agree that there is a lot of unfairness in society I'm just not sure that expecting the wealthy to pay for everything is the right answer. There has to be an element of personal responsibility introduced, but not in the way that the government have proposed.
     
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    Getting the wealthy to pay their fair share would be a start !
     
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    Like Philip Green ? £250m tax avoided by paying his wife a dividend of £1.2bn as a non resident ?
     
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    Jimmy viz Well-Known Member

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    He deserved it. After his sterling work for the former employees of BHS. Where would their pensions be without him...


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    "Their fair share" =/= half of everything they earn.
     
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    What I don't get is the unadulterated filthy greed. I'd wager that most folk on here if offered a £1.2bn dividend would be happy to contribute by paying tax of £250m.
     
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    The super rich don't pay half.
     
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    No I'm not talking about examples like Phillip Green. I'm saying that the higher earners already contribute a sizable proportion of tax in this country.
     
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