Derby latest club charged by the EFL for breaking financial rules

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  1. Wilmersdorfer Winky

    Wilmersdorfer Winky Well-Known Member

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    Should be points deduction then - them and Birmingham as well. Shouldn't have to rely on others but it's about teams were made to get their house in order
     
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    I bet their points deduction leaves them just above us. I doubt the EFL will throw the book at them and no doubt they will appeal.
     
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    Birmingham been charged as well - second offence so should be points deduction as well
     
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    Wont happen but wouldnt it be funny if Wednesday Derby and Birmingham were the 3 clubs to go down due to points deductions. If Carlsberg did ....
     
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    At this rate we could end up in play offs.
     
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    And Rooney could be making his League One debut come August.
     
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    They will probably be called to an hearing then told how naughty they’ve been and not to do it again.
     
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    What I don’t get is why the EFL refer them to ‘an independent disciplinary commission’? It’s their competition, their rules, why are they not setting the penalties? Who are the commission? Who pays them to do the job?

    If just seems odd, they sent Bolton to the same commission, weren’t happy with the result, appealed and lost?

    why are they not just setting the rules and the punishments for breaking those rules?
     
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    It absolves them of any criticism when there’s an outcry for feeble sanctions on certain clubs and harsh penalties on smaller clubs .
     
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    So thats Derby, Brum and wednesday...have the EFL got the man power to administrate all this???
    My worry is, it may be next year by the time they get round to it!!
     
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    If it was reds it would be now fact. Give them it now to show rest of league they mean business.

    fecking no chance. BENT AS ****.
     
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    You know it’s going to happen again? It’s going to be us and Birmingham on the final day to stay up and they’ll nick it like Bolton did.

    I wish the EFL would get some balls and stop letting these teams off. (Presuming they’ll just get a slap on wrist like previous teams). Teams like us, Luton and your Burton types that get punished with relegation and these teams just seem to get another shot at the jackpot premier league!
     
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    There'll be so much hand wringing at the EFL as they worry how to punish big clubs without actually hurting them.
    Now if it was Bury... oh hang on...
     
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    Surely automatic relegation would be the only proper deterrent to this
     
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    cannot see the Wendies going down on a points deduction... they have 42 points so it would have to be huge deduction.... however Brum and Derby could be easily dropped. But it depends when they implement any such deduction... You can bet it will not be in time to help us out.
     
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    These announcements come with a double edged sword. It’s great and about time they started to charge clubs offending. However they now must see themselves at a crossroads, because currently the penalties applied clearly are not a deterrent and unless they address this clubs will see it worth the gamble.
     
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    Wigans former owners have admitted they were pumping around £1 million every month
    just to keep the Club afloat. Agree with the sentiments in the attached piece by the BBC,
    the current practice is unsustainable. A Championship club will do a " Bury" in the not too
    distant.


    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/50674331
     
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    What really annoys me is that if you are in the third tier of the football league you simply cannot do this. You have to demonstrate your income IN ADVANCE before you can spend any money and you are then reassessed halfway through the season. If your revenue has dropped then the EFL tell you that your expenditure has to drop too or theres no players coming in for you.
    If you are in the second tier they simply let you do as you want and they'll take a quick look in 3 years time to just make sure you didn't spend £39000000 of money that you didn't have. If they find that you were naughty and did that then for playing players you weren't allowed to have for potentially 138 games they'll give you just 9 points deduction and allow you to keep signing players.

    It's absolutely ludicrous that there is a rule in the third tier that largely works yet it isn't used in the second tier despite the exact same organisation setting the rules for both tiers.

    It's like telling your 19 year old daughter that she will not have sex before marriage while ever she lives under your roof by at the same time you drive her 20 year old sister to the brothel that she works at each night.
     
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    Relegation by two divisions. One because it must be assumed that without the overspending the team would have been relegated and the second drop as punishment.

    If owners knew that the punishment was being dropped straight to league 2 I don't think they'd risk it. With a punishment of just 9 points I think I'd gamble that signing England's record goalscorer would get me 3 victories over 3 seasons too.
     
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