Disgusted in Jeremy Corbyn

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  1. Dan

    Dan Well-Known Member

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    Using the sorry events in Manchester as a political tool.

    I'd never vote for the man, but I had him down as someone with integrity. He's gone down in my estimation.

    He needs to take a long hard look in the mirror tonight.


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  2. Gally

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    He's right in what he says though isn't he?
     
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    Politician in "lack of integrity" shocker.
     
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    Should we just carry on as if nothing happened then? Or instead come up with a way to tackle extremism?

    We need to come up with rational solutions to the issues presented by Manchester, and doing this in a measured way in a speech which hasn't capitalised on the deaths but instead presented a view sympathetic to the losses of the families involved is the best way forward.

    Theresa May has already started trying to limit internet use after the attacks (see yesterdays front pages), and UKIP released their sodding manifesto yesterday. I must have missed your posts about those?
     
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    I'd agree with you usually but it seems to be one thing Corbyn has in abundance.
     
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    And this is not a political statement?
     
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    Yes and he's right on this point. Just because something tragic has happened it should not stop political debate from going into that area. I fully understand the feelings of the victims and their families BUT we are voting for a government for the next 5 years and ALL policies need to be properly debated in order to allow people to understand what they are voting for. All of the victims I've heard interviewed on TV/Radio have expressed sentiments along the lines of; "it won't change the way we live our lives and we should not bow to terrorists".

    Surely political debate in the run up to a General Election is one of the most important things we mustn't change because of terrorists?
     
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    If he felt that strongly about it why wasn't he debating the very subject last week?

    He's using the dead and injured as a point scoring exercise and he and his party should be ashamed of him.


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    Are you trying to claim that Jeremy Cornyn hasn't been raising the folly of our foreign policy before this week? Seriously?
     
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    [QUOTE="Dan, post: 1970504, member: 675867875749491081218

    strongly about it why wasn't he debating the very subject last week?

    He's using the dead and injured as a point scoring exercise and he and his party should be ashamed of him.


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    This is what Corbyn said after the attacks in Paris.

    https://twitter.com/jackykayjay/status/867875749491081218

    Enjoy.

    Possibly criticise Theresa May who said this. Aim your disgust at her.
    https://twitter.com/ReclaimTheNews/status/867417863627444224
     
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    LOL, people have been ripping into him to speaking to the likes of Hamas & historically the IRA, but clearly bomb hasn't worked.
    Because you talk to people it doesn't mean that you support their actions. Thatcher was talking to the IRA in the 80's, as has been revealed,
    she just used the official secrets act to cover it up.

    The Irish problems were solved by a combination of the acts of MI5 & by dialogue, resulting in the good friday agreement.

    Clearly we are not going to talk to ISIS, but we can stop intervening in wars, where we have no clue who the "good guys" and "bad guys" are, as Donald Trump would term them. We can talk to moderate forces, especially people in this country. Andy Burnham made some very good points on question time last night how things could be improved.
     
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    I think he has seized on one factor when there are several.
     
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    I agree it's complex and multifaceted but I don't think it's fair to say he's seized on that element. It's what he's been saying for years
     
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    What annoys me is that he has voted against numerous 'anti terrorism' measures when they have been put to the commons and he was one of four or five MPs who voted against TPIM. To now claim he wants to be tough on terrorism when he's spent all his political career trying to stop anti-terror measures from going through is very convenient turnaround in his philosophy.
     
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    I didn't mean the timing; he has been consistent in his belief about this. What I mean is this it appears that he believes it is the only factor.
     
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    In truth Corbyn was advised not to speak out by his advisors but felt morally obliged to so regardless of what it meant to his electability. Good to see someone with some integrity working in politics
     
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    'Using the sorry events in Manchester as a political tool.'

    That statement is Conservative propaganda.
    You are repeating Conservative propaganda.

    Fact - our actions abroad inflame terroristist into carrying out horrendous actions.

    Fact - Conservative reduction in police numbers is causing our defence against terrorists to be weakened.
     
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    We have funded Jihadi's in the Middle East, some British Muslims might take that to mean we support them in going out there to fight. They go out there to fight, some come back, some come back with an idea to continue their work.
    We have directly helped to create anarchy in Iraq, Syria and Libya, by at times siding with Sunni headbangers - I'd say Jeremy is only speaking to the truth, if you don't like it, tough.
     
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    Sorry but it is not a fact. It is probable that it contributes but if it was a 'fact' then why are Belgium being hit, why have Sweden been attacked, what prompted 9/11? Stop blaming the West for the actions of these nutters because it really doesn't sound good. Radicalisation is not the product of one thing and a view that it is is dangerous.
     
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    He's not saying anything that many other people, including the the Chilcot Report, and MI5 haven't already said at what many people (including Corbyn) said before the invasion of Iraq, that is:

    The War on Terror is directly attributable to terror attacks in this country and brought destruction and killing of innocent people all over the Middle East.

    At this point this is not a negotiable statement to anyone with a modicum of common sense and bravery to actually criticise government policy.
     

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