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    Did someone post a story of a CNN reporter being arrested by the police ? Looks like the demonstrators turned on CNN too . Shows you how despised they are stateside .
     
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    Is this the same Donald Trump who spoke of "American carnage" in his inauguration speech and said he was the only person who could fix it? That was three and a half years ago wasn't it?
     
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    It's got nothing to do with trump . Do a Google search of occupy wall Street police brutality which will show you how police act regardless of president .

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    I'm not sure about the racism aspects but there are definitely some troubling behaviors with the various US police forces that have contributed massively to the disconnect and distrust from large parts of the community.

    Firstly there is turning them into revenue generators. The Fergusson riots a couple of years back happened in towns where the local police force were responsible for 30 - 40% of the towns revenue with fines and seizures. And that mostly involves "nickle and diming" the poorer parts of for ******** breaches of laws and seizing property in the name of "the war on drugs". That kind of thing is never going to make a police force trusted or beloved by its citizens.

    Secondly we have the role of the police unions. Who make it near impossible to discipline or fire officers who misbehave (see for example New York and the death of Eric Garner). This case is unusual in that the local police union haven't stepped in to claim that his actions were correct. In many other cases where an officer has been fired, a couple of months later they are rehired after negotiation with the police union on the grounds of "improper firing".

    Thirdly we have the US legal concept of "qualified immunity" which makes police and prosecutors immune to suits over their behavior no matter how egregious unless "there is clearly established precedent that the behavior was wrong. This had led to examples of cases being quashed where the police officers stole money from the accused, threw flash-bangs into a baby's crib, shot bystanders while trying to shoot their dog, or WWE slammed a person head first into the ground (as well as protecting prosecutors who withheld evidence showing that the accused was innocent as another example).

    Finally we have the militarization of the police. It's hard to argue that this isn't happening when you have police officers going around wearing the same camouflage as the US Army wears and driving the same vehicles. Behaving like you are on enemy territory can only encourage treatment of locals as the enemy.

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    Copied this post from another forum I frequent . Hopefully it will enlighten you to the issues with American policing .
     
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    That was me and CNN is so not the story here
    The police however appear to be out of control the examples in this twitter thread are truly shocking

     
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    BFC I'm not engaging with you on American stuff any further. We all know the American system is utterly broken Trump or no Trump. I think anyone with a reasonable grasp of what is possible rather than pie in the sky ideological would accept that America has a better chance without Trump than with him. To continually argue that he's not a real problem is, quite frankly, bizarre in my opinion but each to their own.
     
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    I'm glad you ve posted that Twitter link , kind of helps me explain my point of view . Some of the footage is truly shocking if you care to scroll down .
     
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    You arent seriously suggesting that Trump has nothing to do with this are you nothing at all
     
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    America, the land of depraved and the home of deceit.
     
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    It may be nothing to do with Trump but he did say he was the only one who could fix it, he quite clearly hasn't.
     
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    I'll only give the link for this as it contains a young lady hit in the face with a rubber bullet. She's alive, sat up and OK, but clearly quite badly hurt.
     
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    Trump is a massive bell.end and part of it no doubt.
    Trouble is rent a crowd have got involved now and things are escalating and more innocent people will get caught up in it!
    The original crime is reprehensible and the officer should go down for it.
    But when folk start torching and smashing other innocent folks property that’s wrong in anybody’s language.
     
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