Good Luck

https://politicsmeanspolitics.com/harrys-last-stand-election-diary-entry-1-623f929bdc67

Listen to a true hero.

 

Not sure who I'll be voting or if I'll be voting with my feet Tyrone. I think we have 2 poor candidates in the main parties (labour and torys) especially for the working class man. posts like this just piss me off if you don't vote who I'm voting **** off? Get a grip we live in a democracy people can vote who they like.

 

At the end of the day, we will get what we deserve. I'm hopeful, I'm ever hopeful, that sense will prevail and we will have a Labour Government. Then we might avoid becoming a tax haven off the shore of our biggest market, we might be able to afford to be ill and we might be able to educate and illuminate our young. We might be able to help those less fortunate than ourselves instead of demonising them. We might be able to stop the piss being taken out of us by large corporations who take the biggest benefits then add insult to injury by avoiding tax. We might be able to have a commitment to peace, communication and dialogue which might just be useful in the coming years. We might avoid disastrous environmental damage by stopping fracking. We might be able to afford our old people some dignity in their twilight years rather than freezing to death.
We might be able to avoid disastrous foreign wars and if forced to join in military action we'd then not abandon those same forces to the streets once they return home. We might end and reverse the tragedy of homelessness and wasted human potential.
We might invest in high tech and high growth industry which will deliver prosperity whilst looking after our environment.
We might run key industries in the national interest not in the interest of profit alone. We might get shut of the House of Lords. We might just improve the lives of the many, not the few.

The Labour Party today is our best chance of a better future. I don't understand anyone voting Tory. I never have and I never will. I won't throw insults at you. All I'll do is ask you to look around you and think twice. Act in self interest if you must. Ensure you can afford to be ill. Ensure your children and grand children have the opportunities you had. Ensure we don't waste the lives of our armed forces in needless foreign conflicts. Ensure we look after our countryside. Ensure we invest in our country. Ensure you don't have to walk past homeless people. Ensure you don't have to see young children suffer because of a increasingly fractured NHS.

Please, vote Labour.

 

The problem you (we) have is that once Labour lose this election, Corbyn will be jettisoned and you'll then get Labour moving back to a sanitised version of the Tories, as per Blair/Brown from about 2000 onwards. Nothing between them imho - pro mass movement of labour to keep wages down and appease multinational corporations, pro anything that facilitates banks and the likes of Soros to accrue wealth and move assets from individuals to the corps.

a bit of softening towards Health & education compared to what we'd probably get from the Tories but after that - no discernible difference. Bit more funding for Barnsley Council - and other councils - to rip up the greenbelt and build large warehouses for transient companies to pay min wage so the local MP's and Houghton can get a picture in the papers celebrating 'creating jobs' (see that interview re Grimethorpe) without getting to grips with the national structural problems surrounding the rail network, real housing solutions and productivity within the UK economy. Because the main parties and their leaders are scared of the media and the banks. It's not a right/left thing anymore, it's a globalist/nation state citizen thing imho and Chuka, Miliband et al are in the same boat as May/Hammond.

The only hope as I see it is for what we'll call the left re assess its priorities and realise that the workers aren't helped by globalisation as it operates now. It'll be a generational struggle - which is why it'll not happen. Today's media headlines have become more important than citizens welfare.

******, basically.

 

Not sure I'm voting for either

Non of them seem to have any credibility

 

May as just F*** up the Brexit talks by slagging off the EU(no one will stand for a big headed **** like her trying to look tuff for the sake of her UKIP and the rabid far right of her party friends) then saying no deal is better than a bad deal she must be thick, as a no deal is a bad deal.
Let's have a good deal and get back in the EU.

 

No.


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Please explain why?

 

Jesus wept, it's like f***ing groundhog day on the BBS. The same arguments, the same posts, the same vendettas day after day after day after day after day after day....

A new post starts and the same replies that we've all seen a thousand times previously are posted.

A certain poster on here gets slated for repetition but at least his repetition is BFC related.

 

I've got to be honest, I don't really know where to start, but I'll give it a go;

1/ A financially unachievable manifesto.
2/ Using the NHS as a whip to beat The Conservatives with, with zero notion of how to fix it (I think it's badly managed not severely under funded - through experience)
3/ A party who seem to be torn in two and have zero sense of direction
4/ A leader who has zero conviction or a fight for what he believes in
5/ A campaign that isn't taking the message outside of Labour heartland - what's the point in rallies in Barnsley and Liverpool. Put a labour rosette on a pig and it would win here

I've stopped myself at 5. I could have gone to twenty.

Up until the last election I've voted Labour all my life. I have no idea what I'd be voting for anymore, but I'm convinced Labour aren't the party to lead us out of Europe, save the global businesses that prop this country up from leaving and help us prosper in the future.

That said, I'd hate for people not to vote for labour based on the outrageous treatment Corbyn gets from the press. It's not on. I hope people aren't voting for Labour because they aren't the right party, right now, to lead us forward.


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The global businesses that prop up the country are leaving to some extent or other over the next 2-3 years. There will be some element left in the UK, and some will go to the EU. How much of either way depends on the negotiations, but the EU are circling to take as much of the profitable parts as they can. Banks, Airlines, Pharmatech and manufacturing industries relying on JIT logistics and where the supply chain will be disrupted by the new customs arrangements and WTO tariffs will probably mostly go. As could specialist companies that move people around Europe as required (think tech and legal). I personally think that the best case will see the country lose ~1-2 million jobs as a direct or indirect result of Brexit. I hope I'm wrong.

 

**** me, I've just had forty winks and it looks like I've woken up in the Middle Ages.

http://news.sky.com/story/vote-2017-theresa-may-wants-to-bring-back-fox-hunting-10870395

 

Tarring & feathering for litter louts also a manifesto pledge.