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  1. And

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    The other day at pontefract races I was talking to Andrea Alzini driver who I have known for a couple of years he told me he wouldn’t be driving Andrea to York on Friday because he was flying up could that be a tip in it self lol
    I haven’t looked at the race in detail yet but I have noticed that Timeform UAE Prince rated 115
    Alemaratalyoum 119
     
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    Yes, I think it's quite a tight race on the Timeform ratings. But I'm surprised that UAE Prince doesn't get the 'p' because the Cambridgeshire was effectively his seasonal debut, given the interval from his 2018 return. I watched that race again this morning and felt he could have gotten closer without being hampered about two furlongs out. I'm a big Timeform man but I think he may just have a bit more upside potential than the Halifax mob are allowing for.
     
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    Any other thoughts for tomorrow. Will the bit of rain make a difference? What about the draws?
     
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    Mr orsenkant
    I have just looked at the 2-40 race now please please please don’t let me put you of backing UAE PRINCE but I just can’t have it anyway here my reasons why it’s been to York two times and finish 4 out of 20 15 July 2017 also it finished 12 out of 20 26 August 2017
    Yes it ran a very good race last time out finishing well after getting hampered over 2 furlongs out timeform also says his name is on a good handicap for 2019 if staying sound
    My concerns for the horse is the trip just under a mile I think it may need further than a mile by Sea the Stars half sister to Irish Derby/St Leger runner up Midas Touch
    Mr Roger Varian won the race last year
    Jockey has a 37 percent strike rate on favourite since the start of 2013 season
     
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    There have been showers overnight and it looks like plenty more rain is forecast! Will it be enough to affect the form? Hard to know at this stage, but in my experience it often does throw things up in the air at York - so bet with caution! As regards the draw, I tend not to pay too much attention to it. If there is a very known and obvious bias (e.g. being drawn furthest from the rail over 5 furlongs at Beverley) then the question to ask is: does the horse have enough in hand to overcome it? An example would have been Muntahaa winning the Ebor at York in August despite being drawn on the outside.
     
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    Very good reasoning Andrew, and I can't disagree with what you say. My angle is that at 4/1 (bigger in a place or two) this morning, the books give UAE Prince a 20% chance of taking this contest. In my view his chance may be better than that, given his possible upside potential. Although he has recorded only the two wins so far, Timeform seem to have been complimentary about him throughout his short (in terms of number of races) career, and it's interesting to note that on his debut he was only 6 lengths behind Ulyssees! Perhaps the rain will bring stamina into play? Although I note Sea The Stars was better on quicker ground. All in all, I'm happy to take a chance with him, although I concede he is no cert.
     
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    Another example would have been Take Cover winning the Listed race at Beverley over 5F drawn 9 of 11!
     
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    Mr Orsenkant

    I am thinking about backing 2 horses in the 2-40 race at York there are
    CHATEZ I know he’s a fragile horse
    That win at Doncaster 2015 was a very good performance backed up with a decent speed figure also the ground should be ok today

    The other horse is
    Just Hiss likes this course won off the same mark of 86 1 July 2017

    I am very interested in the 4-25 race a lovely 20 runner race over 5 furlongs
     
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    York Selections:

    2.05 Three Card Trick. Won easily at York last time. £2 win 6/1
    2.40 UAE Prince. Just because I back almost everything that Andrea Atzeni rides for Roger Varian. £2 win 4/1
    3.15 Angel Alexander. Similar track to Haydock where it finished second last time. £5 win 5/2
    3.50 Surya. Pissed in at Haydock last time when I had a tenner on. £5 win 5/2
    4.25 Island of Life. I've backed it every run this season. Would be sick if I left it alone today and it went and won again. £2 win 15/2
    5.00 Felix. Just because it is Andrea Atzeni riding for Luca Cumani. £2 win 7/1
    5.35 Royal Residence. Ran well last time up at Ayr. £2 win 11/2

    Newmarket Selections:

    1.50 Well Done Fox. Open race was looking for something against the favourite. £2 win 7/1
    2.25 Angel's Hideaway. Backed it every time it's ran this season was impressed with it at Ascot. £2 win 11/2
    3.00 Mankib. Won well last time and that caught my eye. £2 win 4/1
    3.35 Pretty Pollyanna. Should have been ridden better last time. Giving it another chance with Danny Tudhope on board. £2win 4/1
    4.10 Astronomer. Should have backed it last time it won and backed against it. £2 win 9/2
    5.55 Scottish Jig. Frankie n' Gosden teaming up. £2 win 6/1
     
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    4-25 York
    These are the two I have backed
    Duke of Firenze I know he’s 9 year old now but he has some very strong form to his name he is a full 14 pounds better off than when last won at York in 2017 he has some very good speed figures

    East street revue course and distance winner 4 pounds below last winning mark
    Good luck to everyone
     
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    Thanks for tip
     
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    Uae Prince never got a clear run though , so prob worth betting next time out
     
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    Connor
    Sorry but there are not TIPS I don’t believe in any tips off people there are FORM horses and VALUE PRICES Anyway thank you sir for the kind rely
     
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    4:25 @ york - Foundation
    put yer house on it
     
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    Never put your house on a horse racing tip or your home will have no foundations left
     
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    Looking at results there's no wonder i'm always skint :(
     
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    York + rain = :(

    But very well done to Andrewday for Just Hiss. Good call sir!
     

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