I don't think we'll leave afterall

They made it look like we were having a out and out, or rather in out ultimatum on the EU. But i reckon it was more of a secret 'public opinion' poll. 'They'll' get what 'they' want ie a centralised government/bank in the end.
They just wanted to know if their propaganda worked. It didn't as clearly as expected but they'll push on

 

Please define "they".

 

It was a vote. One side won, it should be legally binding. If Krankie doesn't like it, tough.

 

The people in charge. The UN, G8 Summit, NATO, America etc

 

Agree with all of these points. To be clear 'Leave is Leave' and it should mean everything. All legislation that has not been separately adopted by the UK Govt, no access to single markets ...everything. If the Govt or 'them' are not happy with that they shouldn't have called a referendum with such a dumb question in the first place, but they did so respect it.

 

The referendum can be totally ignored if the government so wish. It's therefore annoying when people in Europe are trying to pressure us to set the ball rolling. We don't actually NEED to do anything and remain members until such time that WE decide not to be. I think we SHOULD and WILL take notice of the referendum but that's our business not theirs.

 

Here's sumert else to back up yer theory AR...

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/p...eeting-over-fears-eu-referendum-a7121016.html

 

If the government don't comply to the will of the people, the Conservatives will be in the same state as Labour, with people voting for UKIP at the next election.

 

OK "leave is leave". But what does that really mean. What did you actually vote for? Keeping free trade and movement of people. Neither of these. Cherry picking a combination that you like? If you want any deal with the rest of Europe they have to agree it. Why would they give us a better deal than we currently have and see the EU fall apart. Looks like the 17 million voted for lots of different flavours of leave. So we will need a second referendum to determine which form of leave you want, (not another in or out vote). But what happens then if there is not a majority?

 

I agree out means out. We need another general election

 

they are delaying it and i think thats a good thing as they a preparing for leaving

if we just left and had no plan we woiuld have a very big problem

 

All this pathetic ''we don't have to leave'' is the most ridiculous thing I have heard in years. We held a democratic vote and the result was leave. Everyone had a chance to vote. End of. If the Tories decide to ignore it they will be turning their back on democracy. UKIP will take their place.

 

Was always the way. Nobody was reading the small print. I think it explains Dave's quick exit, as he was making assurances that had no legal grounding. Like you say, a garnering of public opinion, nothing more. Whatever government decides to do they'll do. It's a shame Jo Cox had to die on the back of this farce.

I posted this, a week befoort vote.

http://bbs.barnsleyfc.org.uk/showthread.php?245172-Incredible-I-assumed-this-was-common-knowledge

 

It was democratic in principle, but not in law. The out campaign lied their heads off, so all bets are off as far as I see it. I couldn't see it sticking 3 weeks ago, even less likely now. I mean come on, allowing the collective wazerk that is the british public decide on summat like that!! It'll never happen. Unless the controlling government thinks it suits them in 2-3 years time, when they've tested the water to see what brexit might actually mean in reality and find it's in their interest. Then they'll applaud the public for their splendid choice. Most likely, we've all been properly side-swiped, no matter which side we came down on.

 

Which of course should tell you that I am in a position where I could lose more than the average Joe . It already costs me everyday with the exchange rate because my bank account is in the UK, but I support leave because I believe in the long term it will be best for my country not me.

 

General elections

 

Is that like a distant planet?

 

Okay. Reasonable questions. I agree 17m did vote for lots of different reasons. That's why a 'yes/no' referendum vote is a particularly blunt instrument in answering what can be a complex question - Cameron at fault for this I believe. But that's tough. Leave won the vote and that means leaving everything. So - no cherrypicking at all. Out is out. End of. If some people did vote Leave with the expectation of cherrypicking (a bit of a gamble if you like) they must want their bumps feeling. The question didn't give the option to cherrypick.

I think I've already answered the question as to why I voted Leave - to end the concept of the UK.