I have to say this... I'm appalled at what I've just heard.

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  1. Red

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    Hammill was the only signing who wasn't in the plan. Long, White, Fletcher were loan signings made just like Crowley, Rothwell and Harris who hadn't worked out. It was hardly like the starting XI in the second half of the season was completely different to in the first half when we were in the relegation zone. We got the best out of the players signed in the plan. Tactics were holding them back. The likes of Mawson, Hourihane, Roberts and Winnall we signed under the plan. You can hardly say they weren't important in getting promoted. We did not abandon the plan at all
     
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    Well Sessi is the only obviously defensive midfielder. But I very much we'd have signed Mallan and McGeehan in order for them to compete with Moncur and Mowatt for just 1 spot. So I wouldn't be surprised if one of them was played in a more defensive role but also allowed to bring the ball out. It's what Moncur did the other night and I thought he did well albeit in a friendly
     
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    We got promoted as a combination of things imo. Wilson's signing of Winnall outside the plan, the plan itself which allowed us to recruit well, getting rid of tbe inept Johnson. A big part was Hammill and a slew of expensive loan signings which aren't part of tbe plan as far as I'm aware. To attribute promotion to some grand plan is just wrong imo. In L1 we are a 'big' team with financial advantages ypu woukd expect if well managed that we would get promoted over a 3-5 year period as we did last time. The best I can say of tbe plan is that it may have accelerated this. I support tbe plan in full but not to tbe expense of realism.
     
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    I agree with this.
    The plan per say is working ok but the promotion etc as you say was down to other factors eg loans, Hammil sacking at Huddersfield ,
    We gonna need all them factors in years to come but the plan is essential as part of the journey moving forward in modern football
     
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    Conan Troutman Well-Known Member

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    People are free to ignore the negative threads and start their own offering a different point of view.
     
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    Exactly, he's a big fan and won't want our team dismantling more than the rest of us but I think he's thinking about the future for BFC without himself. I get the feeling that he wants to make sure that we're financially secure, for a little while at least, so we don't go under if we suddenly find ourselves without him. He's already said that he is terminally ill and we have no sign of a buyer so we may be completely reliant on this money soon to ensure we even have a club, no matter what level we're playing at. I trust Patrick and believe he is acting in the best interest in terms of longevity for BFC and of course, the interests of his family.
     
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    They tend to get shouted down or accused of being happy clappers - wasn't like this when the board first started. Bit of humour on it which is sadly lacking now
     
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    Some are too easily offended tbh.
    But some are aggressive and too ready with the insults but tbh that just makes me more determined to post .
    I've also misread or misinterpreted threads and been a little too aggressive myself although not to the extent of threats or over the top insults.
    Anybody that's been to an N.U.M meeting when there are opposing or differing views face to face will know what aggressive debating is all about lol.
     
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    Every manager. Without exception will say they need more players
     
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    Loan signings are part of the plan; Hecky has said as much, they are there to sign players we wouldn't otherwise be able to afford to complement our other signings

    We did well enough to formulate a plan that was successful so we quickly got out of League One. Signing the best players from lower leagues was absolutely the right move; Sheffield United only last season started following a similar move, without such a focus on youth, but this move is what saw them get promoted. As I see it, it's been very successful so far and it is far better than anything that we can realistically do unless we get taken over by a multi billionaire
     
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    Plan in a nutshell.

    We sign a player for £100k, 12 months later we sell him for £1 million.
    Out of the that we buy 3/4 players for 250k each, 12 months later we sell them for £2 million each.
    We buy 5/6/7 players for 500k, 12 months later we sell them for 3/4/5/6 million each.

    Each year we are developing our squad from 100k players to 250k players to 500k players etc etc, eventually we are full of million pound players and we win promotion to the Prem.

    Piece of piss.
     
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    Ahem.. need at least two decent centre-forrads, at least
     
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    By lots of agents, absolutely.
     

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