Inter-Forum PREMIER Positions Game 2013-14

Inter-Forum PREMIER Positions Game 2013-14
organized by Sunderland’s Black Cat Chat, Reading's RR, and TOTT forums




This game is already well established, several seasons running now. But this season we’re going big time – should be over 30 individual club forums involved. The Sunderland ‘Black Cat Chat’ forum does the real work all during the season. I am the representative from the Reading’s Royals Rendezvous, and we also have a strong Liverpool group too helping out too. Talk of the Terrace are also going to be a point of reference for all this coming season.

And it’s dead easy! You simply guess ONCE (now!) what you think will be the final league positions for the Premier League 2013-14 (that’s all teams, in order 1st to 20th), leave them on this thread, and then sit back and enjoy!

Why the attraction of all this you may well ask?! Well, it’s now some time since we had those great days of the BBC 606 fans forum service – alas, most will remember it closed in June 2011 – so this is an ideal way to keep us all together still.

This game will initially take you a couple of minutes, and then enjoy without having to make updates at all, all season. Right, below are the current 20 Premier teams in alphabetical order – simply copy these onto your PC and re-arrange them in your finishing order come the end of the 2013-14 season:

Arsenal
Aston Villa
Cardiff
Chelsea
Crystal Palace
Everton
Fulham
Hull
Liverpool
Manchester City
Manchester United
Newcastle United
Norwich City
Southampton
Stoke City
Sunderland
Swansea City
Tottenham Hotspur
West Bromwich Albion
West Ham United


According to your choices you score lots of, or better still few, points. And how do you score points? Scoring is as follows:
For each team you score one point for each place away from its predicted position. Example - if you predict Sunderland to finish 9th and they finish 9th, you score 0 points (excellent predicting). If they finish 13th you score 4 points or if they finish 7th you score 2 points. Therefore, the nearer you get to the exact position and have less points mounting up the better. I will endeavour to make updates at the beginning of every month during the season out of interest, but all leaderboards during the season are given for interest.
IMPORTANT! - The big winners are the people who have LEAST points after the final game has been played.


The table positions won’t change position so much in the later stages of the season so … how can we maintain interest to the end you might be thinking?! Well, this season we have MONTHLY rewards for those in the top positions! For example, points rewards for the highest positions at the end of every month (say, calculating from the REAL table on the 31st at 11.59pm!!). Here's the idea:
1st spot - take off 5 bonus points from score, so score dips even lower
2nd - take off 4 bonus points
3rd - take off 3 bonus points
4th - take off 2 bonus points
5th - take off 1 bonus point
Bonus Points for the most successful - Positions 1 to 5 includes tied points so there may well be far more than 5 people involved. Their position for the deduction will be based on their (true) teams' score, not taking any previous deductions into account which you do keep all season of course on your overall total .


Also, where forums have an entry of a minimum of five people there will be a ‘board average’ too, thus you’ll be able to see how your forum copes against many of the others. I believe it’s an average set against a yardstick of averages and not a simple add up and divide, but the order of forums will always be correct. We’ll also have some notable entries from media, press and public figures to spice it up too. And any individual can enter too, without being affiliated to any football forum, no problem there, in which case go to Royals Rendezvous in "Rivals, but Friends" where just in this section any non-registered member is able to post. But over 90% of entries will probably come from well-known sites like yours ... which is what we encourage.



Just one plea - Please use the team names given above, it's a pain in the a**e translating entries from WBA or W.B.A., or putting Manure or Chelski or worse etc, so that the Sunderland automatic process stands some chance. Although you may know who the **** are, the computer doesn't! Thanks!!


And enjoy it! But think hard before committing pen to paper, this selection will last you all season!! (If you change opinion and ideas, then please make a new post and not simply edit, in case I don't get to read your change).
ALL entries in before kick-off day in the Premier which is 17th AUGUST 2013 (and if possible don't leave it to the final day, it will strangle us!!!).

daib0

 

It’s dead easy, as I said. Here’s my entry …

1 – Manchester City
2 – Chelsea
3 – Manchester United
4 – Tottenham Hotspur
5 – Liverpool
6 – Arsenal
7 – West Ham United
8 – West Bromwich Albion
9 – Everton
10 – Sunderland
11 – Newcastle United
12 – Fulham
13 – Stoke City
14 – Norwich City
15 – Swansea City
16 – Cardiff
17 – Crystal Palace
18 – Hull
19 – Southampton
20 – Aston Villa


Your post will look like this, but with your order. Please copy and paste the teams so the spelling is similar, this is a plea from the organizers!

Please don’t get offended with my selection, whether a team too high or too low, every place has to be occupied with a team, it’s never personal!


OK, get them coming in lads … we do all the rest! Plenty of time yet, the premier season doesn’t start till the 17th August!!

 

1 – Chelsea
2 – Manchester United
3 – Manchester City
4 – Arsenal
5 – Liverpool
6 – Tottenham Hotspur
7 – Everton
8 – West Bromwich Albion
9 – Swansea City
10 – Aston Villa
11 – Newcastle United
12 – Fulham
13 – Stoke City
14 – Norwich City
15 – Southampton
16 – Cardiff
17 – Crystal Palace
18 – West Ham United
19 – Sunderland
20 – Hull

 

1 - Manchester United
2 - Manchester City
3 - Chelsea
4 - Arsenal
5 - Tottenham Hotspur
6 - Liverpool
7 - Everton
8 - Fulham
9 - Newcastle United
10 - Stoke City
11 - Swansea City
12 - West Bromwich Albion
13 - Aston Villa
14 - West Ham United
15 - Norwich City
16 - Sunderland
17 - Southampton
18 - Cardiff
19 - Hull
20 - Crystal Palace

 

perfect, that's the stuff. Over half a dozen forums have replied first evening ...

 

1 – Chelsea
2 – Manchester City
3 – Manchester United
4 – Arsenal
5 – Tottenham Hotspur
6 – Everton
7 – Liverpool
8 – Swansea City
9 – Aston Villa
10 – West Ham United
11 – West Bromwich Albion
12 – Sunderland
13 – Stoke City
14 – Fulham
15 – Norwich City
16 – Southampton
17 – Newcastle United
18 – Cardiff
19 – Crystal Palace
20 – Hull

 

Go on then.. here's my go

1. Chelsea
2. Manchester City
3. Arsenal
4. Manchester United
5. Tottenham Hotspur
6. Liverpool
7. Swansea
8. Norwich
9. Southampton
10. Aston Villa
11. West Brom
12. West Ham
13. Everton
14. Fulham
15. Stoke
16. Sunderland
17. Cardiff City
18. Hull City
19. Newcastle United
20. Crystal Palace

 

1. Manchester United
2. Chelsea
3. Manchester City
4. Liverpool
5. Tottenham Hotspur
6. Arsenal
7. Fulham
8. West Ham United
9. Swansea City
10. Everton
11. Cardiff
12. Stoke City
13. Newcastle United
14. West Bromwich Albion
15. Southampton
16. Aston Villa
17. Norwich City
18. Sunderland
19. Hull
20. Crystal Palace

 

1 - Manchester City
2 - Tottenham Hotspur
3 - Manchester United
4 - Liverpool
5 - Arsenal
6 - Chelsea
7 - Aston Villa
8 - Everton
9 - West Bromwich Albion
10 - Southampton
11 - Swansea City
12 - Stoke City
13 - Newcastle United
14 - Fulham
15 - West Ham United
16 - Cardiff
17 - Sunderland
18 - Norwich City
19 - Hull City
20 - Crystal Palace

 

fantastic lads, now well over 50 in all, from over a dozen forums ... looking most promising

 

1 - Manchester City
2 - Chelsea
3 - Manchester United
4 - Arsenal
5 - Tottenham Hotspur
6 - Liverpool
7 - Everton
8 - Newcastle United
9 - Southampton
10 - Swansea City
11 - West Bromwich Albion
12 - West Ham United
13 - Aston Villa
14 - Fulham
15 - Sunderland
16 - Stoke City
17 - Norwich City
18 - Cardiff
19 - Hull City
20 - Crystal Palace

Depends on whether Spurs keep Bale and who United buy though.

 

1 - Chelsea
2 - Manchester United
3- Manchester City
4 - Arsenal
5 - Tottenham Hotspur
6 - Liverpool
7 - Everton
8 - West Bromwich Albion
9 - Aston Villa
10 - Fulham
11 - Sunderland
12 - Newcastle United
13 - Swansea City
14 - West Ham United
15 - Cardiff
16 - Stoke City
17 - Norwich City
18 - Southampton
19 - Hull City
20 - Crystal Palace

 

1, Man UTD.
2, Chelsea,
3, Arsenal.
4,Man City.
5,Liverpool.
6,Spurs
7,Aston Villa.
8,West Brom,
9,Fulham
10,Everton
11,Sunderland,
12,Newcastle,
13,Southampton
14,West Ham
15,Swansea
16,Crystal Palace.
17,Cardiff.
18,Stoke.
19,Norwich.
20,Hull City

 

1 Man Utd
2 Chelsea
3 Man City
4 Spurs
5 Arsenal
6 Everton
7 Liverpool
8 West Ham
9 Swansea
10 Aston Villa
11 Fulham
12 Crystal Palace
13 Sunderland
14 West Brom
15 Stoke
16 Newcastle
17 Cardiff
18 Norwich
19 Southampton
20 Hull City

 

Cheers guys, there's PLENTY of time, but entries in order are currently at:

HULL CITY – Not 606 Hull board 18
NEWCASTLE - The Toon Forum 14
FULHAM – Friends of Fulham 12
BARNSLEY – Talk of the Tarn Forum 10
READING – Royals Rendezvous 9
CARDIFF – Cardiff City Forum 5
Talk Of The Terrace (National Forum) 4
BLACKBURN – Roverstalk 3
WEST BROMWICH ALBION – WBAZone 2
NORWICH CITY – Not 606 Norwich Board 2
CRYSTAL PALACE – Holmesdale Forum 2
MANCHESTER UNITED – United Lounge Forum 1
BLACKPOOL – Back Henry Street Forum 1

But I've not even had time to get the topic up on a number of forums that I get on well with yet ... that'll come this week


If you could write out the teams names more-or-less in full, that really saves me time looking through and editing against the original spellings of the teams ...:smile:

 

1 – Chelsea
2 – Manchester United
3 – Manchester City
4 – Tottenham Hotspur
5 – Arsenal
6 – Liverpool
7 – Everton
8 – Swansea City
9 – Aston Villa
10 – Fulham
11 – Newcastle United
12 – West Bromwich Albion
13 – Southampton
14 – Norwich City
15 – Sunderland
16 – West Ham United
17 – Cardiff
18 – Stoke City
19 – Crystal Palace
20 – Hull

 

1 – Chelsea
2 – Manchester City
3 – Manchester United
4 - Arsenal
5 – Liverpool
6 – Tottenham Hotspur
7 – Swansea
8 – Everton
9 – West Bromwich Albion
10 – West Ham United
11 – Stoke City
12 – Aston Villa
13 – Newcastle United
14 – Fulham
15 – Norwich City
16 – Southampton
17 – Sunderland
18 – Cardiff
19 – Hull
20 – Crystal Palace

 

1. Chelsea
2. Manchester City
3. Manchester United
4. Arsenal
5. Tottenham
6. Liverpool
7. Everton
8. West Brom
9. Southampton
10. Swansea
11. Fulham
12. Newcastle
13. Sunderland
14. Crystal Palace
15. Aston Villa
16. Norwich
17. West Ham
18. Stoke City
19. Cardiff
20. Hull City

 

Here’s a big update lads, as promised. Firstly, many thanks to all for your involvement. We are taking this seriously, it’s not any old thread and then forgotten. The idea is to provide you all with season-long entertainment, as you’ll see when we kick off on 17th August as the season starts. Actually, there was a bit of minimal doubt from just a couple of posters that we’d not do anything after putting up the thread, but I hope these kinds of progress reports are a good kind of proof of how we want to do the thing. This “analysis” is taken at the 325 entry mark, just 2 or 3 days ago, but we are way beyond that now!

If you take the entries here on your site, and make an average one, we’d come up with this from this forum:

1 Chelsea
2 Manchester United
3 Manchester City
4 Arsenal
5 Tottenham Hotspur
6 Liverpool
7 Everton
8 Swansea City
9 West Bromwich Albion
10 Aston Villa
11 Fulham
12 Newcastle United
13 West Ham United
14 Southampton
15 Stoke City
16 Sunderland
17 Norwich City
18 Cardiff
19 Crystal Palace
20 Hull


But further still, if we were to make an average out of ALL the first 325 members, this is the ‘average favourite’ of ALL entries:


Combined


1 Chelsea
2 Manchester City
3 Manchester United
4 Arsenal
5 Tottenham Hotspur
6 Liverpool
7 Everton
8 Swansea City
9 West Bromwich Albion
10 West Ham United
11 Fulham
12 Newcastle United
13 Southampton
14 Aston Villa
15 Sunderland
16 Norwich City
17 Stoke City
18 Cardiff City
19 Hull City
20 Crystal Palace


The forum entries, including the latest arrivals stand currently at:

SWANSEA – Planet Swans 34
HULL CITY – Not 606 Hull board 29 (32, but includes 3 incorrect at present = 29)
NORWICH CITY – Not 606 Norwich Board 23
LEICESTER – Foxes Talk 22
WATFORD – WFC Forums 20
DERBY – DCFC Fans Forum 18
DONCASTER – Viking Chat Forum 17
LEEDS – Dirty Leeds forum 17
NEWCASTLE - The Toon Forum 16
FULHAM – Friends of Fulham 14
BARNSLEY – Talk of the Tarn Forum 13
BRIGHTON – North Stand Chat 12
LIVERPOOL – Liverpool FC Forum 12
QPR – Not 606 QPR Board 12
LEEDS – LUFC Talk 11
READING – Royals Rendezvous 11
BLACKPOOL – Back Henry Street Forum 10
CRYSTAL PALACE – Holmesdale Forum 9
PETERBOROUGH – The Official Posh Forum 8
Talk Of The Terrace (National Forum) 7
CHELSEA – Chelsea FC Forums 7 (8, but includes 1 incorrect at present = 7)
EVERTON – ToffeeTalk Forum 7
WBA – BaggiesZone 6
WBA – WBAZone 6
BLACKBURN – Roverstalk 5 (6, but includes 1 incorrect at present = 5)
BURNLEY – The Longside 5
CARDIFF – Cardiff City Forum 5
WIGAN – This Northern Soul 5

CRAWLEY TOWN – CTFC Net 4
SUNDERLAND – Black Cat Chat Forum 3
Individual Non-affiliated Entries 2
MANCHESTER UNITED – United Lounge Forum 1
NOTTINGHAM FOREST – The A Block 1

Only three forums have not taken up the invitation, and two of those want to do so before the season starts


This is a staggering 372 entry guesses / from 32 forums !

The premier league season doesn’t start until 127th August, entries are allowed until 11.59 on 16th August, so we’re aiming for an entry of 500 so that we can really say this is a national game of interest and importance.

It is even possible for those not affiliated to forums to try; in this case you’d need to leave an identification name, plus ideally your town/city and certainly your team on this following thread: http://royalsrendezvous.co.uk/topic/9919624/4 Where non registered members ARE able to post.

As we kick off, monthly and usually fortnightly updates will be available on here – usually your own members’ progress and the top 50 or so of the national charts. For a comprehensive complete run-down on everywhere you will be able to find it on the organizing Sunderland Black Cat Chat forum, at:
http://www.blackcatchat.info/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=3977&p=34283#p34283

And as a second option I have a back-up on the “Talk of the Terrace”, useful too because it’s a national forum:
http://www.talkoftheterrace.net/showthread.php?5454-Inter-Forum-PREMIER-Positions-Game-2013-14/page4 That same Royals Rendezvous thread previously mentioned will also have everything covered as a third option!

Tell your friends!


I’ll do another big update next weekend, but I’ll be on here to comment anything or any queries during the week, no worries …

daib0

 

Latest Update!

482 guesses / from 36 forums (with 31 of these included in the forum average game too, having got the 5 minimum necessary) coming from:

HULL CITY – Not 606 Hull board 40 (42, but includes 2 incorrect at present = 40)
SWANSEA – Planet Swans 34
LEICESTER – Foxes Talk 26
WATFORD – WFC Forums 25
CARDIFF – Cardiff City Forum 24
NORWICH CITY – Not 606 Norwich Board 24
CRYSTAL PALACE – Holmesdale Forum 19
DERBY – DCFC Fans Forum 18
DONCASTER – Viking Chat Forum 17
LEEDS – Dirty Leeds forum 17
NEWCASTLE - The Toon Forum 17
FULHAM – Friends of Fulham 16
LEEDS – LUFC Talk 15
QPR – Not 606 QPR Board 15
BARNSLEY – Talk of the Tarn Forum 13
READING – Royals Rendezvous 13
BRIGHTON – North Stand Chat 12
LIVERPOOL – Liverpool FC Forum 12
BLACKPOOL – Back Henry Street Forum 11
NEWCASTLE UNITED – Vital Football Newcastle 11
WBA – BaggiesZone 10
CHELSEA – Chelsea FC Forums 9
EVERTON – ToffeeTalk Forum 8
PETERBOROUGH – The Official Posh Forum 8
TOTTENHAM – Tottenham Hotspur Unofficial Supporters Site 8
Talk Of The Terrace (National Forum) 7
BLACKBURN – Roverstalk 6
MANCHESTER CITY – MUFC Forum 6
WBA – WBAZone 6
Individual Non-affiliated Entries 6
BURNLEY – The Longside 5
WIGAN – This Northern Soul 5
-------------- not yet forum entry (minimum 5) below:
CRAWLEY TOWN – CTFC Net 4
WEST HAM – Cockney Boys Forum 4
NOTTINGHAM FOREST – The A Block 3
SUNDERLAND – Black Cat Chat Forum 3
Media & Communication 3
MANCHESTER UNITED – United Lounge Forum 2


Next weekend, last weekend before the Premier League kick-off I’ll have the national average selection and your forum average entry once more …
For now though, you might be interested to see the proposed table by Oddschecker, who have made averages from 24 different betting firms. From all of those, you’d get this average:

Manchester City
Chelsea
Manchester United
Arsenal
Liverpool
Tottenham Hotspur
Everton
Newcastle United
Southampton
Aston Villa
West Bromwich Albion
Swansea City
Fulham
Sunderland
West Ham United
Stoke city
Cardiff City
Norwich City
Hull City
Crystal Palace

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Generosity! Anyone can change their selection up to day before kick-off.

If you wish to change opinion in the light of transfers etc. then simply write your NEW selection and include it as a NEW post on this thread and I’ll include it as ‘good’; much better than going back and editing your initial post, because I'm bound to miss that!

Next weekend I’ll give all the entrants lined up on each forum; check your name to make sure I have spelt you perfectly correctly (capital and small letters, hyphens etc…)

Have a good week, and still almost two weeks for more entries!!

daib0